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"Once we have a war there is only one thing to do. It must be won. For defeat brings worse things than any that can ever happen in war. "
Ernest Miller Hemmingway

afgan soldiers guarding a road

This video is relevent

hehe, why my father discourages my wchildish wish to be an officer in the paratroopers

Is it not better to win than to loose?

I my mind peace bought with chains of slavery is worse than fighting, no matter what the cost is. Or would you say it was a bad call for USSR to keep fighting in ww2 when they could just have thrown down their guns and have peace (when peace would have been worse)

well someone is in a bad mood (i like the krogan reference, haha)

this, just like isnt it better to go out figting (in fire) if you know youre loosing than "go quietly into the night.

heres some military paintings so i dont get scolded at by the mods for going off topic

All those countries had demands forced on them, not an ideal peace.

first of all, stop getting angry at people for not viewing things the same wya you do (you used to bu a much more relaxed guy), second of all, it all depends how you look at it. ww1 for Russians is a bad example, no offence.
Nazi invasion of Denmark: i dont understand, are you saying that defeat was goo for the Danes? yes they did have a relatively easy defeat and occupation when compared to others, but what if they had won and succeded in holding back the Nazis (immpossible i know), would that not be better (if you were a Dane and werent a Nazi sympathiser)?
War in Afghanistan: way too complicated, especialy considering it came a while after Hemmingway.

Are you saying that it was beter for (to use as an example) the Danes to loose and be occupied so quickly and without much destruction then to suffer war like say Eastern Europe, or Germany at the end of it, or peraps even france when it was overrun? But others would say, as i said before, that its better to go in fire than to go quietly. All depends how you look at it and on your own view on life, morals, philosophy, whather youre an absolutist or a relativist...

All im saying is that you cant say something is stupid (unless it absolutly is, like really really stupid, as in self contradictory) just because you dont agree with it.

1. Nazi invasion Denmark wasn't the end of Danish fight against the Nazis, they never really quit. Also you are over simplifying things. Denmark was part of the allies when the war broke out. So Danish peace with the Germans was only a set back for the allies, thank god allies kept fighting.

2. War in Afghanistan. I think what you saying is that USAF retreating now is for the best? Well no, it might be good for us, but not for afghan people it sure wont in long term.

3.ww1 for Russia, again Russia was part of a coalition, and the coalition never gave in. You're over simplifying things again

4. In winter war we fought for the peace settlement in other words we won our self's the peace settlement (the quote says:"Once we have a war"), if we just decided to quit fighting when the war broke out, well lets just say Stalin's regime wouldn't been a paradise for us Finns.

Edit. Hemingway was American thus he thought that any war US would ever wage was justified and morally good and if they lost that war, it would spell disaster. That's why he said "when WE"

1. Danish pilots kept fighting until end of the war. Also in my mind sometimes fighting for a lost cause is preferable than live under slavery. Fortunately Danes were treated better than most occupied nations. Also (this the part I almost cried, because you of all people should realize this) ww2 isn't multiple wars, its one war. The quote says :"Once we have a war there is only one thing to do. It must be won." and allies won it. Your example is good if it was only a single war for Denmark.

2. Never said that, you said:"Afghanistan is a example were defeat is the better option." because only way afghan war is a defeat is if isaf pull out now. isaf will pull out steadily.. If they bull out immediately, even more blood shed will ensue. Also isaf generals believe that end of isaf combat operations in 2014 is too soon.

3. Splendid, so the union did a mistake when they won against confederacy, you know that war. If the union had lost, slavery most likely would have staid a lot longer. But hey at least life's would have been spared.

4. USSR was too fatigued and the war wasn't really popular among the soviet people, that's why they didn't ask more.
Stalin's original plan was to annex all of Finland, that comes out from their own records.

That your arguments are wrong, and i take this as your way of saying: i am out of good arguments

Back on topic now, friends?
I'll start...

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More pics, or I'll start using Google translate to swear at you in Finnish! You know how that'll turn out...