Beat your kids, people.

This is really simple you know... DONT BEAT YOUR KIDS!!!
While you might eventually get the urge to hit that little #&!%¤& you shouln't do it. You are their parent and you should not have to resolve to violence to teach a kid something. You are an adult and while you are the childs superior you should be able to solve conflicts at home in a non-violent manner. Here is a couple of things you could do:
1. Be a good example.
2. Spend time with them.
3. Dont give in if they want something.
4. Talk with them about the rules and tell them why they are important.
5. Be patient.

Btw. I was never hit as a child, and I think I turned out alright. And I know I'm only 17, but I still want to give my take on it.

I been beaten, slapped, spanked, knelt down on both knees for 6 hours. And I turned out fine. I'm 22 and almost out of university.

Now parents I know your child may be a spoiled brat but you need patience. I know you already tried to be a good example and I know you try to explain the rules, but never resort to violence. :roll: Seriously. Do you think a kid is gonna understand when you try to explain to them what a rule means? Its easier said than done to "not give in if they want something". When you tell your kid to clean up twenty times in a single minute I think your patience just about runs out. If your kid is a spoiled little brat it is not a bad thing to give him/her a little spanking. Im not saying beat the shit out of your kid, but once in awhile a spoiled brat needs to be taught a lesson. My nephews are extremely spoiled, and their parents have tried all that without success. As soon as they started a little spanking (again not beating the shit out of the kid), they began to listen. I do not see how this could cause a kid psychological trauma for the rest of his life.

I was only ever hit once, and I really deserved it.
What happened? Bit a chunk out of my mother's lower leg while she was making supper.

Cannibal?!

Children only become spoiled if the parents spoil them. If you're consistent and never give in, your kid knows that he/she isn't going to get anything out of complaining etc

Yeah I dont know about Taiwan, but in Denmark your parents would go to prison for that or at least you would be sent to a foster home.
I'm not saying that if you get beaten as a child you're going to turn out like a monster, but it's not going to do any good that "proper" parenting cant do. Your child should respect you, not fear you.

I hate living you can't figure out the stuff happening around you, that is going to effect stuff in the future. (at least its hard to figure it out)
I mean 70 years from now we can see what effect beating kids has, was it better that we didn't beat them or not...

It has to do with most Taiwanese parents treating their children like property, they think they can do anything with their kids. Taiwanese parent want their kids to be quiet, obedient and excel at their grades, they hit their kids if they don't comply with their wishes. With me it's mostly threatening to send me to my mother's, though like I said I have been beaten before.

Yeah...
Chinese parents are like that. Though I didn't get hit that often, I still learned.

My Mum hit me as a child, i vaguely remember being punched in the stomach, it helped though.

I have a paradox; i hate all kids apart from the ones im related to? I cant explain it i just do.

They tried spanking him, and all that crap. They tried everything. He refuses to give in. It is not them giving in it is him not giving in. I am not saying he;s spoiled as in he gets everything which he does not. I am saying he is spoiled as in he will refuse to listen sometimes no matter what you do to him.

Back to the topic, spanking your children is in no way a bad thing.

Children aren't born deciding whether they will be disobedient or not. They learn everything, behaviorisms and all, from their parents. If a child is spoiled, its the parent's fault they are spoiled.

Having worked with young children I can say I agree yet disagree. There have been kids that will not listen because their parents give them whatever they want, and there are kids who do not listen and their parents are incredibly strict.

Didn't read through the whole thread but here's my opinion on the matter.

If you have to beat your children to dicipline them, you're not a good parent.

Children will make mistakes and that's how they learn. When they've done something wrong you have to teach them that what they did was wrong and why it was wrong. You can't tell them "Don't do that" and then give them a spank, because all that does is make them think; "Oh if I do this, and my parents catch me, I'll get spanked". They won't think that what they did was wrong and as soon as you turn your back toward them, they'll do it again. You need to make them understand that it's wrong. Somethings they will realise is wrong, others will not, they cannot understand everything because they're just children, but you have to give them time. If you tell them what they did was wrong they probably won't appear to listen at first and will seem to be very stubborn about it, but it will make them think about it.

So basically, make them understand what is wrong and why it is wrong and if they can't understand that get them to respect you, which you can do alot more effecient than physically punishing them.

My personal life experience is completely irrelevant to the argument. Whether I've lived a great life or a really shitty life, I don't have to explain myself to you and it wouldn't matter anyway. The basic premise for everything (anti-natalism, veganism, views on suicide and everything else you've heard from me) has to do with the ethics of imposition. It's quite simple actually and we could discuss it sometime if you leave the sensationalist reactionary crap at the door.[/spoiler:2ibytkup]
Good job on derailing your own thread by the way =P[/quote:2ibytkup]


I accused you of being afraid of life because all your philosophical beliefs seem to be against taking any sort of risk, I mean if you had a child it could have a shitty life and thus it is morally incorrect to have a child? If I go to walk down the stairs to the basement I could trip and fall and hurt myself so I just shouldn't go down the stairs.

I don't feel the need to "try to understand" where your coming from when you've all ready stated it. You can assume I'm retarded and obviously can't comprehend your super amazing thought process but sadly, your incorrect. I simply disagree with you. My views on this is mild use of force is acceptable in some situations, I'm certainly not proposing everyone start using mandatory beatings as the answer for all woes. It's far better to give the kid a smack across the head and continue to be his parent and mentor then to isolate him in his room, avoid eye contact with him and just act ashamed.

Beating your kids would just be a benefit to you, not to them. A mere release of anger is all that will bring to you and your family.

Of course, if you're for strict hardline-leftist policies in your family values that's perfectly reasonable....

Ok, let me give you an example: when I was 9 years old, me and my family, some cousins were having a barbeque dinner, I went up to the unattended BBQ and wanted a feel of the chicken. I had then sustained burns on my fingers, and then, I never touched a barbeque again.

This is better than a smack to the face because: It did not cause psychological harm to me by making me develope a fear of barbeque's. And it did not make me develope a fear of my own father, because he did not slap me.

Just strap your kids in front of the TV clockwork orange style and make them watch Mind of Mencia over and over. They will never misbehave agian. Also if you feel they like you too much just call them by the wrong name just to show that you don't care about them and some nights just give them a knife and tell them to find their own dinner (teaches self reliance). And if you want to teach your teach your kids how to swim lure them to the deep end of a pool with a puppy and push them in. That's it for my parenting tips, your welcome.