You mentioned the facts yet don't provide a citation? How very sad. Are citations normal in german universities? Do you just like to blindly follow whatever someone else tells you? I guess that's how both World Wars reached such a brutal altitude. With your bizarre logic I could also declare you to be a member of the National Socialist party, a facist, an imperialist, a man (?) intolerant towards the religions of others and, finally, going all the way back, a barbarian. On a side note, don't call anyone "braindamaged" when you misuse the word "your." I seriously laughed out loud when I read that and saw your errors. But enough about your fallacies. When you have purchased 10% of oil from a country and try to protect it from a government that opposes you, does that make you an empire or just smart? THe oil fields were burned in the Gulf War, so I guess your logic says "It won't happen again!" It's like you think we have some sort of magic power that told us where Osama Bin Laden was hiding. Quite silly, but given what you've been spewing on the forums, I can certainly expect it from you. The CIA theory prior to his death was that he was living within some uncivilized tribal belt near Afghanistan. We covered both bases and look what happened! We actually did something. What has your government done lately in the fight against terrorism? This is a serious question by the way, as I can't think of any significant accomplishments on your country's part. Also, I really couldn't give less of a shit about where your sister's fiance has been. If you haven't been there, and aren't a "soldiere" don't bother telling me about it. Libya again! You basically declared the United States as a prime evil in the operation. If you're mentioning global politics or U.N./NATO missions, you should probably mention the league and not the leading member. That would be like someone blaming Nazi Germany for the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor. Also, if you knew anything about the intervention (pretty evident that you don't) you'd realize that the decision was originally opposed until bellowings from the various European nations finally made us participate. Also, we don't just attack brown people. It's a common misconception made by idiots. We don't discriminate when we fight. Hell, we fought red people, bombed yellow people and dominated white people (you! ). I'm very aware that you see no facts, because your country's media is so manipulated by corporations. It's quite sad. Guantanamo Bay is reserved for those convicted of terrorist plots. If we didn't use interrogation, we probably wouldn't be able to foil the many bomb plots formed against us and Europe. Unless you can prove they're innocent (since they've already been found guilty) you shouldn't make aimless comments about the facility. It works. Unlike Nazism. Keep paying those war debts.
Horrible.... There is no sense in arguing with you. I explained 3 times why you cant just hold me responsible for he actions that accured before I was born. But you dont get it. Pleas go ahead. Call all germans Nazis. Also, if you like to bash people who make mistakes because they speak a language they were not raised with, I waish that you write in german from now on. So I can do the same to you. Oh, you dont speak german? Then stfu about it. As I said, no need to reason with you, cause there is no such thing as reason in your little patriotic head. P.S.: go read up the Patriot Act and find out how much conviction there must be for someone to be tossed into prison for beeing a terrorist....
Would you rather me hold Poland responsible? They didn't do shit! It's the other way around. If this was a german forum, I'd type in your silly pig latin. It's not, though.
Thread cleaned up. I'll take this opportunity to involve all of you guys that while spirited debate is allowed and encouraged, there is no need to throw around personal insults (which are against site rules) so kindly keep things on topic here on out.
If logic isn't in your skill set then i'll let you know that a lot of studies have gone into figuring out if different peoples are inherently evil , some specifically DIRECTED at the germans vs other peoples. Now to test your brain power I would like for you to make a prediction on how these studies turned up.
OKAY BOB this is just unacceptable and I would LOVE for you to type everything he has in german. RIGHT now.
Looks like I missed a bit in the cleanup. What you quoted was in the context of a back and forth debate that got heated, and personal insults wound up being slung around. Both sides were told to refrain from getting personal, and as far as the staff is concerned the matter is resolved
So resolved that I am still reading it on the last page. This is nonsense, and I'm sure mustachio didn't join our forums to be harassed.
Why can we choose who and who cant have nukes? Ether everyone has them, or we collectively destory all nukes.
WE didn't choose. The world agreed when we all signed (with the exception of the international loonies) the NPT.
So, why is it the americans are opposed to a nuclear power programm in Iran? Last time I checked, the Iranians signed it
... Signatories to the NPT were either recognized NWS or just plain old signatories. And Iran was not a recognized NWS. They pledged, as did all regular signatories, to never start a nuclear weapons program or to seek the acquisition of nuclear weapons. And it's not about peaceful nuclear power, that's okay according to the NPT. But Iran's intentions are quite far from peaceful given their conduct about the whole matter.
Well you see Jimmy, nukes can kill everybody. And those who have them would rather everybody else not have them.
Well if we stay to the facts, the Iran never started production of Uran that can be used for weapons (atleast not that anyone fo us knows). Look, I dont want them to have them either, but, I dont like how its okay when some states doesnt hold true to a contract (for example the US for not reducing their nuclear arsenal) but demand other countries to do so.
Wait what? We've reduced our arsenal VASTLY since signing the NPT. Tactical nuclear weapons practically don't exist anymore and those that do are in the nuclear sharing program, which is a pretty huge step. Not to mention the huge cuts in strategic stockpiles that continue to this very day. The key to US disarmament is Russian disarmament. And the New START is only further evidence of continued desire by both nations to keep making cuts as required by the NPT.
You still own thousands of them, and to make it worse, spread them all over the world. They are even stationed here in Germany, not far from where I live. Which is an illegal action due to the NPT. Nuclear weapons serve no purpose, and should be banned completly. To reduce the amount to a few thousand is not sufficient at all. Also, in 2000 a conference of NPT states developed a 13-point program for complete disarmament which was blockaded in 2005 by the United States. (i have a reference, but it is in German, I checked the englisch page for it, but it seems it isnt there ). I am also aware of the START treaty, which reduces the number of nuclear weapons to 2000 each. Which is sufficient to destroy the freaking world like 100 times..... Why steps? I dont get it... Again, the Russians do the same thing, which sucks equally. But the topic here are the americans, not the russians.....
Either on US military bases or, as is probably the case here via nuclear sharing in NATO, which is not illegal. They obviously serve a purpose, but as I said there are reductions being made even today; it's not like we're getting to the 2000 mark and stopping... Probably because Russia wasn't in on it. The only factor that really matters in our disarmament regime is whether or not Russia is willing to link to our moves. If they aren't then of course we won't draw down our use. Because its' a big issue that shouldn't be rushed in to. Things are on track according to current UN arms reduction guidelines, and thanks to New START are actually ahead of schedule. Nuclear disarmament of both our nations is pegged to each other. Nothing happens unless we agree to draw down at the same pace. It's been working so far.
We are not in the "sharing" programm since Germany banned nuclear power for military purposes. And many lawyers and experts disagree on the fact that depositing nuclear weaponry on soil of non-nuclear power is legal when its done on military bases of nuclear powers.... Also, the russians didnt object 2005, only the US....
