CAPITALISTISM STUPID, OR STUPID AND PSYCHOTIC?

Discussion in 'The Political/Current Events Coffee House' started by ComradeLer, Jan 29, 2012.

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CAPITALISM STUPID OR STUPID AND PSYCHOTIC?

STUPID 6 vote(s) 26.1%
STUPIO AND PSYCHOTIC 17 vote(s) 73.9%
  1. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    Why should the government listen to anybody? About what? They will do what they are supposed to do, protect people. And nothing more, nothing less.



    no u
  2. ComradeLer Proud Anti-Patriot

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    Yes, exactly. The government should exist to protect the people. In capitalism, the government only cares about/protects the rich.
  3. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    Oh jeeze, not this again. Capitalism does not mean "rule of the rich" it means "everybody does what they want with their own money. Cut this out. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
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    They don't get those nest eggs because they work in unfair conditions, and their governments are either too incompetent or unable to ensure they have the ability. Also, I don't know man. Whipping all those Palestinian children caused me to work up a dreadful sweat sometimes. Terrible stuff.
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    Now you're just ignoring the issue entirely. What you're talking about has nothing at all to do with libertarianism or freedom, it's just a complete non sequitur.
    Because forcing people to provide goods and services for other people is completely just, right? No one has any obligation to any other person, aside from not infringing on their freedoms. There is no 'right to healthcare' or 'education' because those things have to be given to you. You don't have a right to anything that someone else is forced to provide for you.
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  6. ComradeLer Proud Anti-Patriot

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    I will admit, that is what capitalism is supposed to be. It is an inevitability due to both human nature, and the flaws which exist behind the theory that it will turn into a bourgeois dictatorship.

    Three hundred years of human history prove my point.
  7. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    Mkay. Ler has a thick head. I'm not wasting my time. I'm done.
  8. Warburg Well-Known Member

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    Well that was kind of a gangbang on Ler, but I can't say I don't agree with you guys(mostly)
  9. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    @Ler

    Quick pointer bro. Shit talking Libertarians has less to do with questioning their morals and ethics, and more to do with ragging on the terrible economics that cause their entire system to implode when exposed to a setting other then the primarily agrarian "Sweat-of-A-Man's-Brow" society.
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    Shhh. If we give the illusion of a moralistic high ground, maybe it will go away.
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    The last thing we need is Ler talking about economics. Be more selective with who you advise, lest we all regret the inevitable drivel that is sure to result.
  12. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    Well that's one school of thought (which I happen to agree with... and the Gov't part, not the stuff about capitalism) but not everyone agrees. About half of Americans, and I'd imagine you can extrapolate that to most modern democracies, although Europeans would have a slightly lower %, think of the Gov't as the #1 usurper of the people.

    The government, even in a cynical sense, has a plethora of programs that aim to help the poor and needy. I don't think welfare or unemployment was constructed with the 1% in mind. Similarly, I go to school and live 100% off federal aid. 0 merit based scholarships, just 100% financial needs based aid. Surely, a kid with around 50k in debt being given 10s of thousands of dollars is only to help the rich
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    Damn, those student loans are stacking up. Is Uncle Sam going to make some of that go poof, or are you due to pay all of it?
  14. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    Can't help it. I'm always just so damn helpful.
  15. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    It should 100% go bye bye, but then again budget cuts being the way they are, and certain people in gov't seem to believe that cutting education benefits seem to be the way to go... So who knows. Nothing 2-3 years of a lawyers salary can't pay off
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    I guess so, but I would be pretty pissed if I wound up paying more than 25%. Either way, at least most of it goes down the drain.
  17. CoExIsTeNcE LeonTrotsky in Disguse

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    Thank you lower middle class socio-economic background. I will be getting need based loans, but I will also receive free money. The government really stuck it to me, the 99%.
  18. RickPerryLover strawberries oh sweet Jesus strawberries

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    I feel the need to comment just to say I was a part of this epic thread. In all seriousness thought I am a Capitalist. I don't think you could call Capitalism or Communism stupid. They were legitimate solutions to various nation's problems. Many people say Capitalism is superior for Capitalist American outlasted the Communist USSR. Aside from that I believe that both have ups and downs, but neither system is truly evil or stupid, it is the people who exploit the two systems that are evil and stupid.
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    Ler, calm down.

    @GB The USSR was not a stateless classless society.
  20. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    Red Emma... Was always more of a Luxembourg kinda guy

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