Communism: Dirty and Stupid or Just Stupid?

According to something called The Morris Theorem every single evolution in society has been caused by at least one of these: Greed, Laziness and Fear. A "good" vision requires everyone to share more, work harder and risk more. My ideal is a world without racial hatred and economic or political barriers. You end those then you solve the majority of the worlds problems. Due to The Morriss Theorem that is impossible to reach.

According to something called The Morris Theorem every single evolution in society has been caused by at least one of these: Greed, Laziness and Fear. A "good" vision requires everyone to share more, work harder and risk more. My ideal is a world without racial hatred and economic or political barriers. You end those then you solve the majority of the worlds problems. Due to The Morriss Theorem that is impossible to reach.[/quote:1n0u61vb]
According to something called Dialectical Materialism every single evolution in society has been caused by class warfare. Once classes are abolished, something else will take its place, moralism is one of those possible things.

Well , that comment isn't vague or totally relative at all.

I'm just gonna leave this whole thread alone from now on.

According to something called The Morris Theorem every single evolution in society has been caused by at least one of these: Greed, Laziness and Fear. A "good" vision requires everyone to share more, work harder and risk more. My ideal is a world without racial hatred and economic or political barriers. You end those then you solve the majority of the worlds problems. Due to The Morriss Theorem that is impossible to reach.[/quote:5413gmiv]
According to something called Dialectical Materialism every single evolution in society has been caused by class warfare. Once classes are abolished, something else will take its place, moralism is one of those possible things.[/quote:5413gmiv]

But classes need to exist for society to function.

Dialectal materialism is so much BS; even Che didn't defend its obviously garbage ideas. But far more interesting than all that rot was this:

I have heard perhaps nothing more naive in the entirety of my time on the site. People naturally do what they want to do, not what is good or even what they think is good.

According to something called The Morris Theorem every single evolution in society has been caused by at least one of these: Greed, Laziness and Fear. A "good" vision requires everyone to share more, work harder and risk more. My ideal is a world without racial hatred and economic or political barriers. You end those then you solve the majority of the worlds problems. Due to The Morriss Theorem that is impossible to reach.[/quote:12bkpmuw]
According to something called Dialectical Materialism every single evolution in society has been caused by class warfare. Once classes are abolished, something else will take its place, moralism is one of those possible things.[/quote:12bkpmuw]

But classes need to exist for society to function.[/quote:12bkpmuw]
I don't see why.

@Kalalification Under socialism or anarchism people volunteer far more often, its how Anarchist Catalonia survived for 4 years. People volunteered for basically a death sentence by joining the army to defend the country from the fascists.

I don't see why.[/quote:1s0gmux1]

Because the majority of people on this planet, in my country at least, are so fucking god damn inept that they need to be told what to do. And without a heirarchy you are likely to find yourself with a lack of justice as people take the law into their own hands. As Kali says "People do what they want to do".

I don't see why.[/quote:1nttpe4x]

Because the majority of people on this planet, in my country at least, are so fucking god damn inept that they need to be told what to do. And without a heirarchy you are likely to find yourself with a lack of justice as people take the law into their own hands. As Kali says "People do what they want to do".[/quote:1nttpe4x]
Lack of intelligence in your local community is no reason to condemn the ones who are intelligent and want to make a utopian society for themselves. Also, a Communism does not necessarily require that you are smart, just that you work towards the greater good of the society.
Like it was stated in the 'Dose Law = Justice' thread, justice is a reletive principal. In Saudi Arabia, a woman is beat to death for driving her father, who was driving before her and had a heart attack, to the hospital. In that society, this may be seen as right and just. In the U.S. this is probably seen as injust. It is all a point of view, usually based on the culture and condition of the place in which it occurs.

aha, communism being a utopian society. ha. I guess we all have our opinions!

1. Yes, obviously we do.
2. When I said 'utopian society' I was not actually refering to Communism, just utopian societies in general, be it Communist, Democratic, Fascist, etc. I was refering to the rediculous suggestion that intelligent people have no right or capibility to make for themselves a better world.

The lower class exists for the sole purpose of lifting the few exeptional people on to their shoulders, people like me I'm exceptional.

There is no lower class or richer class. In a proper democracy were everyone is equal before the law and everyone as the same rights, there is no classes.

That is one of the great errors of marxism nowdays against capitalist democracies. In some cases in the 19th century and early 20th century examples, there was classism, but in nowdays capitalist democracies, there is no reason to propagate such idea.

What we have is the economic liberty, to allow people to have more monetary power. It´s a liberty for all.

Yes there is the lower class has hardly money well the higher class holds more.

Observer that's true but in the old sense of the phrase "lower class" it was impossible to be wealthy. The people of "higher class" were nobility and pretty much made it impossible for the normal people to do anything but serve them.

Ancient Rome is a good example. Also see the caste system in India.

The civil liberties we are allowed in modern day make it so anyone can become wealthy . I know a guy who has an 8th grade education but is now making 400k a year plus on his cab company.

oh yes never bad mouth the commies, despite the fact that any time they start to discuss capitlism theirs some form of anti-free makrte insult thrown in...