Dear Tories, Watch This Video You Fuckfaces

Discussion in 'The Political/Current Events Coffee House' started by C_G, Jun 21, 2012.

  1. UtterlyImpeccable Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I agree with what you are saying. I recognise we need to be careful who we accuse of living off the state uneccesarily, but equally we cannot abandon the issue, or be too generous in who we decide is entitled to never to bother looking for a job.
    And I would never take away someones benefits, I simply think it is important that working people don't feel like they would be better off not working, which can sometimes be the case today.

    I also think you approach the matter of poverty, benefits and unemployment from a slightly different angle from me. If we help people to become employable and they then get jobs then the problems of benefit dependancy and poverty will resolve themselves. I'm also unwilling to throw around the word 'poverty' in a place like Britain. While I do not deny it exists, I think the word poverty is used for too broad a range of people, some of whom are not really lacking basic amenities.

    And I do not disagree with some of what JJ is saying (the lack of jobs), it was his tone and manner that annoyed me slightly. Also, it is totally unfair on our government. While they may be in danger of targeting some who need the benefits, their aim after all is to make working people feel more appriciated, not to make poor people starve.

    I would also not be against some kind of semi-voluntary scheme whereby unemployed people can do some basic jobs for the state, where they can learn the basics of what working is all about and therefore have more of a chance to get a job, along with other help in this matter.

    Finally, on my local news last week, there was a farmer saying how a government scheme which brings Eastern Europeans to pick fruit will soon end, and could farmers without 20,000 or so people they need to pick the fruit. While I would never force someone into that as permanent employment, I do not see why the long-term unemployed could not do something of this sort, both to help the farmers and to teach the unemployed people about work and making them more employable.
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