Everything is Predetermined?

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  1. dylan522p New Member

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    So today had a conversation with someone talking about this subject that sounded crazy, but when i looked it up it was not as crazy. So basically what it was saying is that we have no choice :shock: , everything is predetermined. Its predetermined by the very molecules and atom placement in the early universe. Our DNA and our upbring as a child and interactions with other people mean that we make the same choices. SO if someone on the other side of the univese had the same upbringing and dna and personality of parents and interactions as me they would do the exact same thing i am so this post was going to be typed by him.
    PS probably makes no sense i don't know how to explain
  2. Eza08 Well-Known Member

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    Totally disagree what stops me from going to Canada and murdering Justin bieber

    Give me enough money and a new indentity...
  3. Chelsea366 Retired Moderator

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    I don't believe that. Your genes affect a lot of things but they will only influence what you do, not control everything about your future. About the point if someone else was just like you they would post the same thing, that I don't believe either. Any number of things can change what happens and what a person does.
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    Well, yeah. Someone exactly like you in the exact same situation with th exact same life would make the same choice, but thats a load of hypotheticsl bullshit.
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    We have no freewill because we don't have control over our brain, our brain has control over us.
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    Your mind is your brain. Your mind is you. Therefore your brain is you.
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    no i dont belive it i was just thought it was very intersting and its not only genes that determine i said interactions with other
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    Our brain is just chemical reactions governed by randomness, randomness which is ultimately traced back to the beginning of the universe.
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    Its anything but random.
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    Obviously what the brain does is based on purpose, but those purposes can also be traced back to the beginning of the universe. The universe, our lives, and the choices we make are just one big domino effect.
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    Can you imagine we could have killed a person whose ancestor would of discovered the cure of cancer..

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