Freedom

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by UnholyKnight800, Mar 10, 2011.

  1. UnholyKnight800 Well-Known Member

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    Is it just a concept or are we truly free.
  2. Kalalification Guest

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    We are truly free to do whatever we have the power to do. Believing that fate or destiny determine everything doesn't make a difference because you can't make predictions based on those concepts. Same issue comes up when you start pondering environmental influences; same answer.
  3. Kenaz Well-Known Member

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    Complete agreement here. We are free to do whatever is physically in our power. Our actions do have consequences, however, and they can inform our actions. I am free to kill another person or rebel against the government, but the consequences of that may cause me to go to jail: an undesirable outcome.
  4. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

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    This is interesting one

    Now if we believe in some theories like system of Babylon- that suggests that people are in prison that they do not see, and they repeat same tasks over and over again (work) bechose they have to afford living.

    -Leo Tolstoy

    Also there is people that are literaly afraid of money, and do not want to have anything to do with it.


    If we go to detail "Are we truly free" awncer" is no. (Laws) You say we need the and blah blah blah. True freedom means that you can do what ever you want

    Now if we go to argument "You can do what ever you like, as long as it doesnt hurt other" Yeah try to find that place...

    No, we are not "Truly free" Point & case^^
  5. Link NO SWAG

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    No, we aren't free. Nowhere can you do what you want without government influence.
  6. CheFlegel New Member

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    Somalia

    Anarcho-Capitalism.

    Proof that Anarchy does not work. Also I suppose the areas of Anarchy during the Spanish Civil war also prove that Anarchy does not work.
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    Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
  8. Link NO SWAG

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    Somalia's warlords take the place of a government in this case. That said, I'm not an anarchist. I just think people should be able to choose what to do with their own lives, and unless it hurts another person, the government shouldn't become involved.
  9. GiggleBlizzard Well-Known Member

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    But the way most of our society works the government needs to be involved to keep a balance. Especially in socialist societies.
    If we're talking about the same thing ofcourse.
  10. Ahobowithaids Member

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    No one ever said anarchy works. We all know it doesn't- that's why there's a government and that's why, in states without one, some sort of leading political faction is inevitable.

    But as a theory, anarchism is the only natural and completely 100% free way of life.
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    Freedom means something different to everyone.
  12. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    Yes, because there seem to be some clear differences between peoples conceptions of freedom. Freedom isn't only the freedom from restriction but the freedom to action. In most cases in the western world you are afforded the most freedoms while still being offered the protection that being in a society affords. You can make the master/slave dialectic argument, which was Hegel, not Tolstoy... But do I toil at the factory day in day out, putting a widget into its proper place time and time again? No, I get paid to sit around and read and write and talk about stuff, you can argue I'm locked into this life to provide subsistence to myself, but the majority of people are given the opportunity to pursue their dreams so I would contend that they are free.

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