French and Greek legislative elections - turning to extremisms

Sweden, Canada, Norway, Denmark...
You know, all those unstable nations.

Actually they've been harassing people for their political ideology, sexuality, race, and even religion. And they've sworn to do even more of that shit.

No, will save human lives. And how is that a bad justification?

No, has sworn to do and has in the past.

A groups is made of individuals. And this isn't some extreme fringe of the party, this is the party's running basis.

Republicans are not neo-nazis.

OK, I know this site is not really that big on the copy and paste thing, but this is from the Political Debate Club on DeviantART:

I asked a person who earns over 1 million dollars here in the US about if she had to pay a new 75% income tax and she said:

Well lets start off correctly with this.

I'd be left with about 60k a year in a 75% tax bracket after paying workers, about 70% of what I earn currently goes down the line towards employee's in my firm. I'd say about another 10% goes on employee health insurance, dental and workers compensation. So I take home about 20% gross, subtract tax deductions and write offs, then I allocate my capital gains on a schedule C into the business to give myself a great profit in the day trading aspect, yes that's legal still... For now at least. After all of that I bring home about 26% including what I make as a day trader.

I would be rather unhappy with a 75% tax bracket, inn honesty I'd close the doors of my business and leave the United States. Yes I realize that to many that would seem greedy, but I'm sorry a business doesn't operate at a loss, its called bankrupt, much like how our government is.

As to where I would move, that's a hard question. I probably would pick Japan or Hong Kong. Both of which yes are more socialistic but there is a greater freedom in fiscal economy there then here. Japanese is the current language I'm studying in college for the just in case moment. Chinese will be next.

http://politicaldebateclub.deviantart.com/journal/France-and-Greece-s-Election-Results-301048322

Lol.

He's kinda right.

What has this to do with the French and Greek thingy?

New French president wants 75% income tax on the anyone earning 1,000,000 euros.

Oh, I see, sorry. Anyways, income tax is on the benefits, so if the make 1 million profit, we are already taking out employes, health insurance, and etc. That would leave 250k for her. But oh well, all my knowledge about this is in Spanish, so there is a very big chance that I screwed it up.

We have a neo-nazi party in Denmark, they're a pain in the ass, but it's completely legal. I'm pretty sure it's the same in Norway and Sweden. Not really sure about Canada though...

Even if they're doing it, that's their right. People have the right to say what they want to say and then take the consequences fo their actions.

It will not nessesarily save lives. They might never kill someone, and banning them might just make them even more radical and/or desparate. It's impossible to know what they will do.

Again, a group can't be held responsible for the actions of the individuals.

Unless they're directly responsible, they can't and shouldn't be punished.

In Finland we have a neo-Nazi "party" too but sometimes they get sentenced of hate speech. (I don't agree with this BTW)

So you're saying that if someone harasses and throws stones at a random person then they should be punished but if the person doing the harassing claims it's because the person he is harassing is an immigrant and he hates immigrants then it's fine because of freedom of speech?

No, I never said anything like that. I said that the group should not be punished for the actions of the individual. The person committing the crime should of course be tried in court. I don't know where you got that impression from...

They are neo-nazis... Just because they don't run around killing jews doesn't mean they can't be neo-nazis...

Oh it's good to see that you know so much about Danish politics considering most people couldn't tell you where Denmark was on a map, or even knew it was a country... They actually do both things, and sometimes the harassment turns into violence. Quite a number of homosexuals have felt this on their own body...

Again, I'm glad to see that you know so much more about politics in Scandinavia than a native... The level of arrogance on the internet is truly astounding...

You have the right to express your beliefs, and if someone doesn't want to hear them, they can leave. Comparing being offended by a statement from someone to being beaten is really wierd. It's not like you can just walk away when someone is physically attacking you...
Harassment is and should indeed be illegal, but harassment is not the same as just talking to someone who can leave without there being any consequences.

As living, intelligent human beings we have the right to freedom of speech and thought as long as it's not directly hurting someone else. That's one of the most basic rights there is. Violating that because your delicate feelings got hurt is just plain wrong.
This debate is not about rights vs. privileges, so I'm not going to take this any further.

Some individuals have perhaps murdered "a few people," but please don't start the whole "them and us."How many times do I have to say this? A group can't be held responsible for the actions of individuals associated with that group.

Is there really people who don't know where Denmark is located?

You would be surprised..... Ever went to the USA?
They thought I was from Russia ! And then when I told them I was Swedish they said:
-Oh so you're Swiss.

Yes, like 80-90% of the population in the US. You would be surprised of how bad people are at geography.

We have one that is close.

When I was younger I always confused Switzerland with Sweden (Suiza and Suecia in Spanish).

I knew they were bad, but not that bad