Greatest Military Leaders of all Time

well first of all there German and really there where only joined together because of there fear of attalia the hun.[/quote:24vz70tk]
So, it is just because the Goths were different tribes that they were different nations, although they had once joined together and were all from the same general area?

But they fractured again after the Romans?

I guess, but didn't they rule it as a puppet state of the Ostrigoths?[/quote:mvim5pzr]

There was some kind of Romanised barbarian government which ruled Italy from Ravenna on behalf of Justinian. Not 100% on the details.[/quote:mvim5pzr]
Thats what i thought. I'm pretty sure they were called the Ostrigoths.[/quote:mvim5pzr]


correct and some visogoths too.[/quote:mvim5pzr]

Not officialy called the Ostrogoths, but The Kingdom of Odoacer.

Eh, not really. the Eastern Romans tried to reconquer The old roman lands, but only managed north Africa, italy 9belongs to Ostrogoth's), and southern Iberia. and 3 years later lost it all, cause there homosexuals who think that the world owes them something.

You gotta feel bad for the Romans though. Must have sucked to fall apart and then see Europe dissolve into what was pretty much pure savagery.

But the Romans still had some semblance of civilization.

Well you can, for i have found a link with three hardcore history videos one of which being Alexander the great being like Hitler, it was fascinating stuff.

Well you can, for i have found a link with three hardcore history videos one of which being Alexander the great being like Hitler, it was fascinating stuff.[/quote:2x11vpv1]

You fail at editing quotes, plus if you don't have any arguments to throw in here, just shup up and don't say anything.
And it isn't that Alexander tried to exterminate an entire race, just for his to occupy their space.

Yes, Alexander wanted his people to occupy the conquered people's space, but that doesn't make him comparable to Hitler. That would be like saying America's "manifest destiny" idea is comparable to Hitler's "master race" idea.

This is pretty much my point that you just put in redefined words...

This is pretty much my point that you just put in redefined words...[/quote:12k1l1sd]

I know, was just trying to agree with you, with nicer words. =D

Well you can, for i have found a link with three hardcore history videos one of which being Alexander the great being like Hitler, it was fascinating stuff.[/quote:3ko2a97x]
Are you seriously gonna try to compare Alexander The Great to Hitler. That is like comparing Caesar to George Washington.

You fail at editing quotes, plus if you don't have any arguments to throw in here, just shup up and don't say anything.
And it isn't that Alexander tried to exterminate an entire race, just for his to occupy their space.[/quote:21ji4t3n]

Wow your an asshole you know that, you ask for the opportunity to watch Dan's Carlin podcast on Alexander and Hitler, and i get it for you out of good jester and you go around and insult me, go fuck your self sir. I'll go enjoy the podcast my self.

Damn Americans, expecting us strangers to know everything, but I never said and never mentioned Dan Carlin in any of my posts.

I see now that you are in fact right and i apologize to you for that, however if you like to listen to theme i will be more then welcome to share theme with you.

i wouldn't call my self American. from being born outside the united states (in Poznan Poland and lived in Germany) but i lived here long enough that i have become used to american culture, so by that stance am i american? or am i Polish or am i German? or am i combination of the three. Does the place of your birth concluded to which you are or to which they place of which you live and how long does one have to live in a place for that in its self to be your nationality. or can one assign to himself to which he is?

I see now that you are in fact right and i apologize to you for that, however if you like to listen to theme i will be more then welcome to share theme with you.

i wouldn't call my self American. from being born outside the united states (in Poznan Poland and lived in Germany) but i lived here long enough that i have become used to american culture, so by that stance am i american? or am i Polish or am i German? or am i combination of the three. Does the place of your birth concluded to which you are or to which they place of which you live and how long does one have to live in a place for that in its self to be your nationality. or can one assign to himself to which he is?[/quote:t33ozq67]

Depends, do you have polish, german or american citizenship? That's mostly what defines what you are.

I see now that you are in fact right and i apologize to you for that, however if you like to listen to theme i will be more then welcome to share theme with you.

i wouldn't call my self American. from being born outside the united states (in Poznan Poland and lived in Germany) but i lived here long enough that i have become used to american culture, so by that stance am i american? or am i Polish or am i German? or am i combination of the three. Does the place of your birth concluded to which you are or to which they place of which you live and how long does one have to live in a place for that in its self to be your nationality. or can one assign to himself to which he is?[/quote:3ca98lnq]
Your a first generation Polish immigrant to America. Your nationality isn't quite american but your children's will be, assuming you have children in the US.

Depends, do you have polish, german or american citizenship? That's mostly what defines what you are.[/quote:3ue445qg]

To that i do not know, i was born in Poland, lived in Germany for about until thirteen and i have lived in the united states for two and half years now. (tough i visited the united states alot and stayed for extended periods of time)

Is triple citizenship even allowed?

Depends, do you have polish, german or american citizenship? That's mostly what defines what you are.[/quote:2vgrr537]

To that i do not know, i was born in Poland, lived in Germany for about until thirteen and i have lived in the united states for two and half years now. (tough i visited the united states alot and stayed for extended periods of time)

Is triple citizenship even allowed?[/quote:2vgrr537]
Probably, i have double citizenship...

Depends, do you have polish, german or american citizenship? That's mostly what defines what you are.[/quote:3f2ilx5d]

To that i do not know, i was born in Poland, lived in Germany for about until thirteen and i have lived in the united states for two and half years now. (tough i visited the united states alot and stayed for extended periods of time)

Is triple citizenship even allowed?[/quote:3f2ilx5d]

Don't know about the triple citizenship, but it seems you're polish-german. I've got some polish and german blood myself, portuguese and native american as well. =D