Greatest Military Leaders of all Time

@ Deadtrap Yep lets all hate Napoleon cause he marched to Moscow during the fall and found Moscow in ashes totaly his fault so thats 500000000 points off oh here comes an early Russian winter Napoleons fault another 500000000 points off Also did you ever take Napoelon victories into account like Austrilitz, Arcole, and The seige of Turlo etc. Napoleon was a mastermind on the battlefield and a great leader when Napoleon had got back from Elba the 5th regiment was ready to shoot Napoleon when arrived so Napoleon walked up and said " Soldiers of the 5th regiment i am your Emperor, if any of you wish to shoot your Emperor do so now. and they responded with " Vive La Emperor. " and layed their guns down.

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Also the biggest fail wasn't Napoleon's invasion of Russia, it isn't even a fail as he completed his objective, to take Moscow, but the only problem was that it was on fire, so he had to retreat. Also Alexander absolutely didn't face only "peasants", take care when you make these statements, as they're false. Julius Caesar was a great leader, but the Gauls weren't as disciplined as the Romans, so to talk they were equals is wrong.

He's got a thread and everything

I really do hate it when that happens

Yeah i get so pissed when everythings on fire.

Ernesto Guevara
Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov
Erwin Johannes Eugen Rommel

At the battle of Guagemela, he was outnumbered 5-1. Actually now that I think about it, he was outnumbered 5-1 on multiple occasions. Yet he never lost a single battle despite being heavily outnumbered in almost every single one of them. If that is not a great military commander than tell me what is. Not to mention, he conquered 3/5 of the known world.

Alexander The Great was outnumbered nearly 5-1 in many of his battles. Thats a big difference from 2-1. And since when were the Greek City States they conquered peasants?

lol double post.

Also Julius was simply lucky against Pompey, because he was easily defeated at Dirrhachyum but Pompey didn't keep chasing him and destroying his army, he just halted, allowing Julius to regroup and prepare for a decisive attack, he also had veteran soldiers from his campaigns in Gaul, which makes up for the fact of him being outnumbered.

Then you can put Caesar's success on Pompey's incompetence. Anyway Alexander already had a united greece standing with him, so he just had to simply expand with his fathers army.

You said that Caesar was outnmubered as well, (2-1). SO I said that Alexander was outnmubered nearly 5-1 in most of his battles, and still not just defeated, but destroyed his enemies

Guys, it was Alexander. Whatever you think, it DEFINITLY wasn't Caesar, Pompey, or any Roman.

I know that, that's why he didn't engage Julius after he defeated him, he thought it was a fake retreat to catch him later, but as I said, Julius had a lot of veteran soldiers from his campaigns in Gaul, not even outnumbering your oponent, your new soldiers who never saw a real battle would win against veterans, also Persia had the elite Immortals, who were always numbered in 10,000 soldiers, plus their troops were shit, they relied more on local mercenaries.

I have to say that I hold Aleksandr Suvorov as one the best out there. I'll also give myself the benefit of the dout and put Leon Trotsky (even through he didn't lead an army) up aswell due to the fact that he transformed the entire Red Army from a disorganized morass to a effienent fighting machine.

1. Oda Nobunaga
2. Zhao Yun
3. Hernan Cortes (Curse my english Keyboard)
4. Julius Caesar
5. Patton

Patton, wow... just wow.

@Deadtrap
I know that it is your personal opinion, but Alexander was also, in many battles, fighting Greek mercanaries... and, in later battles, Elephants... not to mention Darius' Bactrian cavalry and his Sythed chariots... I am not saying that there were no peasants, but the majority of the Battles he fought in were against... some of the best troops Persia had to offer.

Yeah those Persian chariots and those crack persian heavy cavalry were just worthless peasants. :roll: Oh and I forgot the immotals were just overrated peasants :roll: