I don't really know, although I'd love to see battles between them. Titans vs AT-AT's? O yes, thank you very much. Also, how about the Imperium of Man vs the bad guys from the first KotOR game? That Death Forge is pretty badass, and they have lots of Dark Jedi.
The Imperium of man would win seeing as their best soldiers have the power to match a single sith lord (I.E. Librarians and inquisitors)
Dude sith lords are friggin evil bastards not librarians.They force choke or slice space marines and shit in seconds.Also they could redirect those rocket bullets of their guns and send them back.I'm not a fanboy at all :lol:
I'm not too good with WH40K lore, but a badass like Revan or Vader would probably be able to take several Space Marines down. The thing is though that bolters will be incredibly effective against lightsabers, as you can't deflect a massive bullet.
Not really dead, just not moving his body. The God Emperor of Mankind is maginally more powerful than the Emperor.[In reletive terms that is; we can hardly measure their powers and compare as they are on different scales]. This is a part of 'common' SW lore that has always confused people. The STs were not the common soldiers, THEY WERE THE ELITE SOLDIERS. They operated much like the SMs, recruiting the best from the lesser ranks. Bounty hunters would only ever have a minimal impact. Not all bounty hunters are Fetts or Mandalorians you know. As for Sith... meh, there are too few to make a great impact. Individual Sith are no better than individual Jedi. Remember that it was the common soldier that brought down the Jedi in the Revenge of the Sith, not a massive amount of Sith. As demonstrated in the films, it is an easy task to take down a lightsaber-weilding person as long as you pour enough fire on them [Ki-adi-Mundi, aka the guy with the big forehead] or surround them and shoot [so many more]. The Force is great, yes, but there are not enough Force-users with alot of power to make a difference. Debatable. This is another area in which we cannot really equivilate. In theory? Yes, with enough time. A number of SW factions, particularly the Mandalorians, have armor that can drastically slow lightsaber cutting. Of course, when the Sith/Jedi gets too close, the mere grith of the SM will just let the SM BUM him/her and kill them, as an SM's strength could easily outdo the adverage SW race. Again, Sith? Overrated in this regards. And the Star Forge could probably only struggle to keep up with the output of a single Forge World, let alone them all. Especially since the Star Forge is the only place from which Revan was getting his ships. So? Even if 'several' meant an entire chapter [highly unlikely], they would die afterwards and that would be the end. The rest of the Force-users are mediocre at best. And the SMs would just use the Gene Seeds to rebuild.
Unlike in the movies (acording to the many books), Storm troopers are increadably well trained an accurate, they are the equvilant if not supperior to the space marines. After the fall of the empire, The galactic alligence was in controll but were always threatend by rouge emperial war lords. Later after an invasion from another galaxy (can't remeber the name of the attacking empire) the ramainder of the empire teamed up with Fel's empire and the galactic alligence (witch luke left). Fel's Empire survived and took controll with the help of elite stormtroopers and created a newer and more fair emperium that would kick the emperium of mans ass. However i think the first galactic empire would have been defeted by the imperium of man.
1 for 1, the Galactic Empire would win. When you have a space ship the size of the Moon that blows up Planets its pretty hard to lose. Also, the Galactic Empire has much better deep space weopanry and moves faster. Winning the ground war doesn't matter when they can just bombard you into dust. However the Warhammer 40k Universe made the Imperium of Man huge. They could simply bleed the Empire dry. The books never happened because they were all so bad.
The Imperium has Ships the size of moons that can obliterate planets in minutes, they are in a constant state of war and therefore are incredible experience, the GE has only lasted for less than 30 years, a Psyker is equal to that of a sith lord or Jedi, a single Space marine could rape an enitre squad of enemies, the Imperial gaurd has BILLIONS of troops why their Stromtrooper equivalents are in the Millions. The Imperium has the Titan Legions, while the Empire is restricted to the AT-At as a super tank, the Imperium also has the baneblade and Predator. The Imperium also has the tech priests which could take any GE ship and make it 1000x better. A single Inquisitor could kill a sith lord, and let's not forget about the Grey Knights. The Imperium also has Human-branches that are adapted to every type of world imaginable. Imperium > GE
The star wars series live on in books. All the athours have agreed that they can not contredict and have to come to gether. There are books that take place 1020 years before "New hope" (also known as movie 4) and books that take place 40 years after. This is basicaly the star wars Lore. And contredictary to the movies in the books (witch are first) stormtroopers are increadably well trained and accurate, they are supposed to be in the movies to but for some resone lucas made them in capable of hitting anything in the movies (that asshole) making them come across as increadably un trained. The storm troopers are better than the clone troopers (who could actually hit somthing in the movies). http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Stormtrooper using all the correct lore. If you bother seeng through it i think you will change your mind sry bit of a star wars geek (not the movies but books) edit: I still think the imperium of man would beat the first galactic empire but not the second (not in movies but in lore).
Against the Imperium of Man? Play through Space Marine again. The Galactic Empire? Still not a chance.
I second this motion. The STs are in no way equivilant to the SMs. They are equal on the military STRUCTURES but not in skill or weaponry. The STs are volunteers from the lesser ranks of the GE who show exceptional skill. The SMs, amoung other things, are genetically-altered super soldiers who have ascended past human mortality and are given weapons, armor, and training far superior to any other. An SM soldier could literally CHEW THROUGH a ST's helmet. Debatable, no matter which faction you are refering to [which you failed to specify]. The Orks organized into a cohesive fighting force with a definite purpose? The Imperium seems to be holding out handedly, if not well. The GE would probably take an Exterminatus-like approach, especially since their bombardment weapons do less damage to the surface of a desired planet than the Imperium's do. They could specifically eradicate the Ork infestation and nothing else. In theory. Personal apathy to the books does not mean that they never happened. And besides, for the sake of debate, not including the books, or at least some of them, would make this a VERY BORING debate.
i wasn't saying the books were not cannon i was debating your statement the the stormtroopers were equvilant to spacemarines or even better. and to that statement i have to say bull as is, because it's just not true
So you think this: [spoiler:d1gdjntd][/spoiler:d1gdjntd] Could beat this: [spoiler:d1gdjntd][yt:d1gdjntd]vySW-X673CI[/yt:d1gdjntd][/spoiler:d1gdjntd] ?
Quoting Wookiepedia, the GE had an army of apparently trillions, without counting the navy branch. And would be be counting terrain as well? In an open field, not only would it look epic, the Space Marines would lose their quality advantage, with the Imperial Guardsmen being a lot more effective with constant lasgun (are they called that? I think they are...someone correct me here) fire. And Titans and Baneblades vs AT-AT's and Juggernaut tanks would be epic to see, with smaller Imperial tanks skirmishing with IFT tanks and AT-ST's. And yes, even if Stormtroopers were the elite, one-on-one they would be no match for a Space Marine.
nothing wrong with a little fun debate. just to compare the GE's largest land-based war walker is the AT-AT an AT-AT [spoiler:m7345p9l][/spoiler:m7345p9l] the warhound class titan is the same size as that and it is classed as an urban titan and is the SMALLEST titan made by the Imperium being half the size of the next class of titan a warhound titan [spoiler:m7345p9l][/spoiler:m7345p9l]
