Is Ignorance Banable

Yes. The Europeans were obviously superior when they had to have the Indians teach them how to hunt and farm basic crops to survive. The Indians were healthier and lived longer than their European counterparts. And it had nothing to do with luck. Most natives were incredibly skilled hunters as the various techniques and weapons had taught them to both live off of and maintain the land at the same time. Meanwhile the Europeans rolled in and survived by completely wiping out herds of animals and clear cutting forest. The Native lifestyle was most definitely not inferior.

well with all that "superior Culture" they should have been able to adept to the plains quickly for sure, because i mean if a native culture could last there and even prosper there a superior people should have been just at home there. and the skill of a brave was miles above that of any European soldier at that time.

Ok so I forgot you are the only one who understands art and everyone else on this forum who doesn't have that same opinion of art as you despite them all having the same opinion, makes them not understand it. I remember someone who believed that, someone by the name of Che_Flegel. Also, you do realize that the Great Plains were flodded with buffalo. There were buffalo herds roaming every square inch of that area. The plains people not only survived but thrived. They used every single part of a buffalo. You can go google it too and you will be amazed to find out that not one part of a buffalo was wasted. Even the organs were were used. And when there are that many buffalos around, its not that hard to rack up a bunch of kills with a bow and arrow, considering the natives were very skilled in that trade. Like Matt said, they had to teach the early Europeans how to survive in the new world. The reason why we do not have that many buffalo left in North America is because the Europeans killed them off super duper quickly

need a remind you that the plains tribes still won ambushes and had victory's even though they were facing forces close to 200 years ahead of them in therms of military tech.

I like this topic. It is where all the action is

Inb4 people argue about stupid fucking generalizations.

I think that already happened when this thread began

Hey, you said it yourself, technology =/= a superior culture.

Also it's not like they sent the most genious people in Europe to the New World. Mostly it was Protestants "Fanatics" and all at first.
But anyway, there was actually a reason for all the logging.

You see, to make the huge ships at the time, they needed HUGE logs. Most of these logs were long since cut down in Europe and everyone was being made from the trees far off in Northern Scandanavia and Northern Russia.
These were incredibly expensive and in the Winter you couldn't get the logs as the waters would freeze.

So, they came to America and saw these giant, easilly reached, inexpensive trees and had a massive boon for Clear Cutting.

can we please stop this inb4 thing. im not a grammar nazi but it pisses me off every time.

200 years? Hardly. The Aztecs had technology less than the Ancient Greeks.

Also wiping out of natives only went as fast as Colonization which went VERY slow. So you know...

I mean inquisitor and pedro.

So wait, now because the Natives loved nature more and actually cared about, they are inferior because they never built giant ships????? Warfare does not make a culture more civilized and neither does technology. You have got your morals all mixed up dude

Yeah because those uncivilized bastard Aztecs needed to be wiped out. How dare they try to befriend the power hungry and corrupt Spanish :roll: Also, the Aztec capital, Tenochtitlan, was the highest populated and richest city in the world at the time

Don't double post, Sly.

Do not double post Sly.

Edit - Damn it Chelsea. You gotta ninja the new guy huh?

Doesn't matter. They can roll in and destroyed the environment and native homes just because they didn't have enough lumber for more caravels and warships? G-d forbid that the Europeans have to pay more for the logs.

I just said technology does not decide cultural superiority.

Also they would've choped down those trees too if they had the ability to and the use for the lumber, so no, they didn't 'love nature'.

1) Who cares about the environment? Especially when it's not toxic gases or anything.

2) Most of the natives died of disease so the land was basiclly empty.

Also, it wasn't just paying more for the logs. It was a lot faster and more reliable to take from America. Especially since they could do it year round.

The natives did not have the ability :roll: That statement is absolute BS. Why do you even bother talking about a topic that you know absolutely nothing about?

I don't know what you've heard, but the Natives did not have the ability to clear cut giant forests.

Maybe because you shouldn't and don't need to clear cut forests.