Israel and Iran - Will we see air strikes soon?

So Pedro, Your thoughts on Aristotle and Plato (Socrates included) to which you like better or agree with more, as Im curious in some of Aristotle works and idea as I have yet to read any of them. I recall once Stalin gave a very negative opinion on Aristotle and was wondering if this was shared?

1. Vice president does influence decisions. I don't know so much about us political structure to comment on the rest.

2. Lobbying

3.why?the?fuck? makes more sense using the hole world because us owns the oceans.

Also us and romes prosecutions are pretty same. Both corrupt..

No, far from it. Not only are there international water borders that state who owns what piece of sea/ocean. Not to mention the Romans had near full control over the Mediterranean. All trade went through Roman cities. Heck, it was even called "Mare Nostrum", which literally means "Our Sea".

And if you're going to compare countries based off of corruption, you might as well state almost all countries are the same.

............you Don't have to "own" the oceans in traditional sense look at this video it gives you idea what I am talking about

Well you could say that every country shares some similarities on something

It's nice to see that idiots with some minor editing tools can still sway the easily impressionable.

So it's not the US military, but its navy, which is part of the military? This guy's contradicting himself. The thing with Mare Nostrum is that everywhere from it, the Roman Empire was easily accessible. Heck, the Mediterranean in general can't be compared to the oceans of the world combined. In general, all the differences in society, technology and general knowledge are too different when you compare now to back then to make a good comparison to countries from now and then.

This began as a discussion on similarity's between us and Rome. Oceans are one similarity because there's no naval threat to us.

I seriously raged on that last pit you don't see the similarity between us controlling the worlds oceans (by that I mean trade routs...) and Rome controlling Mediterranean (we are discussing similarity, so were talking about republic of Rome)

trade routs (before Rome took it all to it self)

do you know the old saying:history repeats itself

The Mediterranean is a relatively shallow sea surrounded by land, which was massively important to the development of early civilizations. The rest of the oceans combined never had such a role, as far as I can tell. Rivers did, though.

Rome was constantly under attack by outsiders, and was continuously expanding throughout Europe in all directions. The US has no threats on their borders, nor are they constantly expanding their territory. The US generally expands it influence through diplomatic and cultural means, whereas Rome generally expanded militarily.

And really? An old saying as an argument? It's not as bad as pulling an ad hominem, but in this discussion it has no place whatsoever.

Because saying large nations trade over bodies of water doesn't instantly mean the US is the new Rome? If any modern nation would be "a new Rome", it'd be the British Empire, and still there are glaring differences.

1.did you read the my first post? I never said us and Rome are 100% present same for fuck sake...

2. The saying was but there so you would realize the point of comparing these two and also that there's similarity between the two... Not so hard.

3. Rome didn't have king. Well at start it did, but You get the point. So no UK wasn't the new Rome. And no the naval power and control of the seas doesn't but the other reasons do make the us the new Rome!
What the fuck are you trying to say: us is not the new Rome. Yeah not 100% but almost 60% it is.

Nor did I claim you did. You say the US is the new Rome, which I say it isn't.

There are multiple nations which have multiple aspects they have in common with Rome.

I could explain the contradiction, but you've managed to do so quite well yourself.

You said yourself: The US is the new Rome, my points are as following: Here are some things they both have in common, just like all other hyperpowers (with the exception of the Netherlands, I suppose; and by hyperpowers, I mean those named by Amy Chua in "Days of an Empire", which is a pretty interesting read), which in essence are ways to gain that very position. Oh, they also had rivals. Like many other nations. Citizens are kept happy by entertainment. Like in most countries.
Oh, and their symbols are the same, which is a vital point.

So, by these arguments, about all of the Western world could be considered "almost 60%" of a new Rome. The points where the US and Rome share some similarities don't mean they're the same, or better said, one is a new version of the other.

back to subject hey matt i have another question? Ive been hearing lately {probally rumors} that
female officers in the U.S milatary are running secret prostitution rings. If you happen to be
deployed in Iran would you get in the fun? Me and some classmates were bored want talked about it
because human interest do have a hand in our action.

So what do you guys think about that nice Iran plan to attack first apparently?

1.lol just LOL

2.yeah so the fuck what. The point is the America is the closest one to Rome

3.just LOL this the most hilarious argument in a long time

4.america is the closest one to Rome.

5.no not every one, just us............

I would disagree with that wholeheartedly; air power is both completely different and less strategically important than naval power, especially in terms of power projection (which in the context of determining a hegemon, is pretty important). Buuuut the US is easily the dominant air and naval power in the world, so it doesn't matter much on the point itself.

Oh hey women forced to sell out their bodies to depraved perverts so they can pay the bills when they get home, SOUNDS FUN!

Prostitues aren't happy people. Next to none of them choose to be in the positions they are in. Imagine if you were molested, forced to participate in disgusting acts, made humiliate yourself and have videos of you doing that stuff put on the internet for all of your friends/future employers to see. Prostitution is slavery, and is one of the most disgusting forms of slavery to exist in the capitalist system.

Thank you for enlightening us with your brilliant arguments. Really, I'm blown away by the counter arguments and examples you've provided.

Thank you. You really did give me some good points to argue

We're so good at this, aren't we?