Master Chief John-117 is a Superhuman Soldier from birth who has energy shields on his armor that deflect bullets, and kill a man in one punch(or whack of the assault rifle). Also he has a sexy computer lady in his head. He is also a master of all weapons and technology, has singlehandedly taken on highly advanced alien armies and defeated them, (something Shepard required a team to do). Chief will destroy anything he wants. And I am definitely not a biased halo fan.
@ all of the above comments that went on for more than 500 characters on every page; Holy fucking Ghost. Anyway, just dropped by to say Shepard has squad mates, like Wrex, with almost completely different strengths.
You still don't get it, do you? Besides the fact that the developers usually go with the books first [as in Halo's case], games cannot be reliable canon establishers. The reason for that is that games have two vital flaws/shortcomings when it comes to canon. First is that they have game mechanics. Game mechanics are designed to make the game non-canon, but fun to play. As was pointed out earlier, if MC was endowed with the abilities that he has canonically in the books into the games, it would amount to a stomp almost every time. The game would simply not be fun. Similarly, if the Jackles were given the same sheilds in the game as they are described in the books, barring any amazing-for-average-gamers displays of tactics, they would be virtually indestructable. Look at the Hunters. In the game, you kill many of them. In the books, there are only a handful of pairs on High Charity, which is the religious center of the Covenent and where the Covenent put proportional population to how many there are overall in the whole of their empire. Also, few people have actually killed a hunter. MC's first encounter with them was only 'won' because he and his fellow Spartans fired their guns into the ground around the hunters and the resulting structual weakness combined with the sheer weight of the hunters caused them to fall through the floor. Its not even confirmed if they died because of it. Second is that games simply cannot include as much detail as they used to. Attention spans have shorted on the market. If something doesn't blow up quickly, then people lose interest. You simply cannot place blocks of informational and detailed background information on the screen and expect people to read it and take it in anymore. Look at ME. In spite of the menu including a data section which cataloged information gathered by the player throughout the game on everything from the Mass Relays to the guns to Biotecs and medigel, few people here have even mentioned one iota of that evidence in this debate. For that matter I was the one to present the most for either sides. The information simply is not conveyed that way. Many people shoot their way through an FPS and never understand even a part of the story. Look at COD. In spite of massive failings on the part of the storyline, all the audience really cared about was shooting things and the developers complied. Books are just plain old text and carry the story and the details. There are entire games in some fiction universes that are not considered canon. In the elder times, you could get away, indeed thrive on the blocks of texts, but not anymore. On the contrary, clearly YOU have not read the books either. In fact, since Shepard is an RPG character, his/her 'character' is inadmissable, whereas MC's less than fifty lines of dialogue in each Halo game give him more character. Shepard is more like a glob of clay. For that matter, judging victory by character makes no sense since one is an FPS and one is an RPG, of which the latter is built around the idea of crafting a character and the former has canonical character traits for everyone.
I hate Halo... but never played Mass Effect... We should have a meh button. But since I like vans and candy I vote for ME3. Yes.
But... The people don't want to hear about their personality, they just want sex! You quoted the wrong person. Made me want to come see what you replied to. But no, I haven't read any of the 'books' of which you speak, however, I did pre-order the Collectors Edition of ME3, so I'll be reading what's inside of that box. As for what you're rambling on about, you're only looking at it to your perspective, which is, Master Chief is more like a Chuck Norris joke. So to say, Master Chief has more of a personality than Shepard because he can swim on fucking land, or punch a Jackal in the face by glancing at the ugly little shit. But Shepard and the ME series is flexible, expansive and relative to the things that happen amongst people in real life. You take one thing, build it up and later on it gets put to use and it continues to build up until something happens to break it down. And that is fun. I think that was over 500 characters... So I'll have to retract my previous statement about posters who went over 500 characters...
If you have ME 1, its in the menu when you open it up [after you have loaded your game] and its called 'Codex'. Clearly you didn't understand my post. You just restated what I said. Whereas MC has an established personality, as placed down in both the games and the books, Shepard is just an RPG character who literally starts off without a personality. We cannot measure Shepard's personality v. MC's because there are too many varieties, as defined by the fact that he is an RPG character and is molded by the player. Therefore, we have to take what is canon and what is canon is that MC has a personality and Shepard is a glob of clay waiting to be molded.
Keep in mind I didn't read all of it, nor did I read this post, as I have little care. And yes I know what the Codex is for, I thought you meant comics and short stories that are not directly installed into the game.
LOL. No, I didn't. For that matter, I don't care much for the comics or short stories of most universes. If there was some earth-shattering information in them, a good page could summerize it [like on a Wiki or something] without me having to read the story. And in any case, well-coordinated developers usually don't put those things in short stories or comics. They reserve them for books, where they can charge alot more. But I did watch Halo Legends.
Why would they fight in the first place. I feel they would most likely be on the same side, making all that stand in their way into dead things that used to stand in the way of two soldiers.
Battalion, give it up. Imperial is so biased and deluded he can't accept that he is. Initially I thought we could have a fair discussion, but he completely ignores what I have to say and attacks my case by saying that I said something and attacking it, when that wasn't even what I said. He obstinately uses dumbfounded ways to justify his points, as I'm sure you can tell. He ignores everything I say except something here or there which he attacks, and even then in a way that makes absolutely no sense. He calls me a lazy and a troll when I write a 900 word constructed response. Drop it, ignore him.
To be honest, putting all of that thought into his posts was kind of silly, but whatever, it's a forums. Also, I don't view it as a very heated debate, as I am assuming you have viewed it in that way.
Battalion, give it up. Imperial is so biased and deluded he can't accept that he is. Initially I thought we could have a fair discussion, but he completely ignores what I have to say and attacks my case by saying that I said something and attacking it, when that wasn't even what I said. He obstinately uses dumbfounded ways to justify his points, as I'm sure you can tell. He ignores everything I say except something here or there which he attacks, and even then in a way that makes absolutely no sense. He calls me a lazy and a troll when I write a 900 word constructed response. Drop it, ignore him. This:
In the books, Chief had lightning speed and reflexes, and incredible strength, accuracy, and tactical thinking. I would say chief wins in the fight. As a character, he was taken from his parents at age 6, given elite level combat training short after, physically augmented at 14. He then received his armor which furthered his abilities, and made him nearly indestructible. He basically became an unstoppable killing machine. But you have to know that he lived with 71 other Spartans from the day of his kidnapping. They became his brothers and sisters, his only family. He trained with them, ate with them, went on missions with them, learned with them, and they all cared for each other. He had to stand all of them dying, and continue the fight. So don't tell me he didn't have any feelings or emotions.
