Mexico or France Military Embarassment

Discussion in 'Historical Events Coffee House' started by Kalalification, Sep 3, 2011.

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Who has the more embarrassing military history, France or Mexico?

France 3 vote(s) 6.8%
Mexico 41 vote(s) 93.2%
  1. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

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    I'd say France, just because they actually tried world conquest and convince them selves that they are/were succesfull makes it so much more pathetic.
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    For one they won World War I against the most powerfull militaristic state in the world.
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    Mexico epic failed time and time again.
    Also, they didn't beat France. They were actually conquered by France. They only beat France's puppet reigm in Mexico, and just barely at that. They would've lost by French direct intervetion but America had just ended the Civil War and had the largest army in the Americas, so it just wasn't worth a blood bath to *maybe* take Mexico.

    Other than that, Mexico lost seemingly everything that wasn't against other Mexicans. France had a few victories, especially during Napoleon. Mexico was much worse.
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    won WW1 after nearly five years, with their capital falling into artillery range, and needing the entire entente plus US to help them
    Oh yes, very good show! *sarcasm
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    No, France sent a shitload of troops, and they lost against Mexican Guerillas.
    And not just Mexican Guerillas, but the Liberal ones. And only the liberal ones. The conservative royalists fought on Frances side.
    That's right. France and their puppet regime couldn't defeat half of Mexico.
    Stick that in your can and smoke it.
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    What about the Italians? There's a incompetent military on the scale of Klink from Hogan's Heros
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    The Italian "military" doesn't pass the basic qualification test.
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    It's the only military that lost against France
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    Ya, originally they did to conquer Mexico. But most of them left when Maximillion was put on the throne. Maximillion created an army that fought the Guerillas but his army was mostly made of Mexicans, not Frenchmen. It wasn't really an Ideological War. Sure more Conservatives fought for Maximillion than the rebels and vice versa for the Liberals, but it wasn't about that.

    Maximillion was losing because he was so unpopular and it was just a matter of time. So France was prepared to send their massive army in again to conquer Mexico. However America just finished the Civil War and the entire country was mobalized, equipted, and trained. Because of the Monroe Doctrain America immedietly took a stance against Maximillion and France. If France invaded Mexico they would've probably been squashed by the American army after upsetting the entire World by doing so.

    So France backed off. Maximillion had already renounced his Austrian aristocracy to lead Mexico, so he had no where to flee. So he made his last stand against the Rebels, lost, and was executed.
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    They failed to even conquer a backwards African nation (ethiopia in this case).

    Of course, because fighting from your little island is very hard. :roll:
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    Oh ya, like when they destroyed Libya and Ethiopia? Or when they kicked the Austrian Empire's ass? Or how they blew through Albania? Maybe your talking about when Venice practically destroyed the whole Ottomon Navy? Can't be, your clearly talking about the Roman fucking Empire.

    Sure they lost against the combined might of the Austro-Hungarians and Germans in WWI, but your comparing Italy to some of the most powerful empires in history.
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    You know they lost 2 wars against Ethiopia right? And that Libya wasn't a country, it was a territory they got from the Ottoman Empire after they changed sides in World War One, and Albania, seriously?

    They couldn't even beat Greece alone.
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    you don't get this by being incompetent.
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    I'd say the French just had bad luck when it came to wars.
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    They did conquer Ethiopia, and they got Libya before WWI. And Albania was pretty pathetic. And they did need Hitler to bail their asses out in Greece.
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    i seem to remember the common US infantry grunt being the biggest embarrassment to America ever.
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    These guys?
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    Not a chance. That choreography is amazing.
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    meanwhile at delta force HQ.

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    America doesn't use bullpup firearms. Your point is invalid.
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