Nazi Victory, Was it really possible?

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  1. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    Now if Germany even managed to make an invasion of England who says England would have just folded over and died?
    General Mosh, Nov 23, 2011
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  2. Bart (Moderator) NKVD Channel Maintainer

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    The fact was that England did not have a big army. They only seemed superior because they had a massive fleet and an enormous air fleet.
    Bart, Nov 24, 2011
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  3. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    No. the end now go home.
    Viking Socrates, Nov 26, 2011
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    They could have. If they would leave Russia alone...
    Bart, Nov 26, 2011
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  5. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Russia would have invaded eventually, great Britain would have stood strong and then you could argue that eventually america would have found a way to attack them directly.

    I find the victory of Nazi Germany so unlikely.
    Viking Socrates, Nov 26, 2011
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    Great Britain was on the edge of collapsing. Germany would have been able to carry on for much longer. Also, there would have been a big chance the USA would not even join at all if they would not have been attacked by Japan.
    Bart, Nov 26, 2011
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  7. battleearl Well-Known Member

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    Didn't Japan sign a non-agression treaty with the USSR in 1941?
    battleearl, Nov 26, 2011
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  8. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    No the united states was going to join even without Japanese intervention, both FDR and Winston wanted it and they would have done anything in there power to make sure it would have happened. Great Britain at the time was doing very well according to the situation they where in as the RAF was doing great against the Luftwaffe, infact the Germans where starting to have more a situation and the entire invasion of the soviet union was almost necessarily to defeat the British as they needed the raw supplies of the Su.

    So no eventually the nazis would have lost.
    Viking Socrates, Nov 26, 2011
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    I don't know, let's look it up... Yes, they did. But guess what: Germany did too, and Japan and Germany both were at war with the USSR a few years later.
    Bart, Nov 26, 2011
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  10. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    The Molotov pact was the one between the Soviets and Nazis, and was considered by many mainstreme communist to be a betrayal of the regime to the fascist. next the Japanese would never declare war on the soviet union, because of the soviet-Japanese proxy wars in the 1930s where the soviets made the Japanese there bitch.
    Viking Socrates, Nov 26, 2011
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    I guess you're right. You know about the history of the USA better than I do.
    Bart, Nov 26, 2011
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  12. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Ironiclay i find the history of the USA to be the worse and its all present as if were the big old world heroes. the best history in the world is Canada ;)
    Viking Socrates, Nov 26, 2011
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    At least they aren't responsible for millions of unnecessary deaths. :-P
    Bart, Nov 26, 2011
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  14. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Except in the places they are.
    Viking Socrates, Nov 26, 2011
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    Which places are that?
    Bart, Nov 26, 2011
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  16. battleearl Well-Known Member

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    The US was the biggest winner of WW2... However, from then on they also got involved into numerous wars and conflicts all across the world...
    battleearl, Nov 26, 2011
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    They don't mind, as long as they can show of their weapons.
    Bart, Nov 26, 2011
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    World War 2 really changed the US...
    battleearl, Nov 26, 2011
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    It has shown them what they could do with weapons.
    Bart, Nov 26, 2011
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    Even if the Germans took England nothing would stop the Russians form wrecking the Fatherland. They had a huge army, with top notch generals. I'm quite sure Hitler would have lost even if the Russians were his only foe. Which ever way you look at it, it didn't matter how many victories the Nazis won, because Hitler was always looking for more land. Sooner or later he would(and did) bit off more than he could chew.
    RickPerryLover, Nov 26, 2011
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