NEW POLITICAL TEST!

I'm not even going to question that. You're Asian and that should be good enough for us.

I flunked my first year of secondary school, and I have little natural skill in math, so to be honest, I can't even read that calculation. I'm left to assume though that you are leaving a lot of equations out of that.

Remember the lack of medical technology, the lack of industry/agricultural develop and famines, the long term deaths resulting of the damaged nation from the civil war/ww2, and likely hundreds of other factors. And besides, that's using blackbook logic. Essentially, 'Every single natural death, every single trial, every single bad thing that happened in the USSR was Stalins fault.'

You can't simply murder half a country of 180 million people without people knowing, or getting upset about it.

Sorry I am tired but did you just say that common folk under Stalin weren't upset about him ruling them?

Because the possibility that you're wrong and that your assertions are bullshit simply couldn't be, right?

Can you give me a poll from 1930

I am going with my friend who's moved here from Russia. And he says that he and he's parents almost puke when they see some one talking highly of Stalin. Who can say that they are ignorant when their grand parents were forced to live under a rule that took some of their relatives and but them to prison with out a trial, and some to mines. And then they had to fight in the most brutal war in human history and then continue to suffer. (they almost annoyingly point out every time that Russian people won the war not Stalin.)

Can you guys take your inane argument elsewhere, I don't care how many people Stalin killed, it wouldn't be a good argument for or against communism. It's irrelevant and both sides shouldn't waste their time arguing about it. I want to discuss how pointless and inaccurate online political tests are.

I am a Social Democrat. Surprised that I am not more left wing.

Yea I just to love it when my father was taken to jail. Then the media said it was bad and now its bad... My father still likes the good old times.

seriously, you just said:"Because of Stalin 3 million people died"

and still you say:"Evidence clearly shows, that people liked this guy when they were under his rule."

if somebody you know is killed because of one man, he's not your relative just somebody you have met,talked and getting to know him just a little. Are you going in your head:"well something great will come out of this"

I don't think you are going to like the person who's fault it is... I hope not.

Stalin was necessary evil in my mind btw

If they liked Stalin under his rule then why did they start a process of "de-stalinization" after he died? Don't you think they would have celebrated him?

Retook the test. New results:
You are an authoritarian Socialist. 1 percent of the test participators are in the same category and 68 percent are more extremist than you.

I'll admit, it's not a perfect representation of the intricacies of population growth, however I will say that for an abstraction it is pretty good. As for your argument concerning lack of agricultural production and medical advances, that still wouldn't reduce population growth to below ~2%, meaning that the 1.5% estimate I gave is still pretty plausible, especially if you look at modern third world countries (comparable in economic development to the USSR of the time) you'll see them with between 1-2% pop. growth rates, which would seem to lend my claim a bit of validity.

Thanks? I guess, but the closest I am to being Asian is my Grandmother's Polish background.

As for the original point of the thread, I s'pose I should put my results up as well.

I got Social Democrat, fairly good questionnaire all things considered.

Err, no. That pretty much destroyed all validity of your argument there for me. Also, Stalin was indeed popular. Support for him raises massively in the older generations (To a majority. Plus these are the people who actually lived under his leadership), he was voted the 3rd greatest russian of all time, and 37% of Russians say they would vote for him if he ran for president. Also the communist party being the second largest party in Duma, even with only a 19% party turnout, and all.

What part of it made you so incredulous? My reason for saying their economic models are similar is that both were agricultural and rural in nature, and that is true for a 1928 Soviet Union (that was when Stalin established collectivized farming in the USSR, taken from Wikipedia). As well they have comparable technologies in terms of medicine and agricultural production, little mechanization essentially.

I may have misinterpreted what you said. By 'Economic methods' I thought you meant policy, rather than the economic situation in the country.

Oh, yeah what I said could definitely be interpreted that way, my bad.

You are a cosmopolitan Social Democrat. 15 percent of the test participators are in the same category and 19 percent are more extremist than you.