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Discussion in 'Site Policy and Rule Announcements' started by JosefVStalin, Apr 19, 2012.

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  1. Chives Newest Member

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    So Chelsea, how's that corrupt authority affecting you nowadays?
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  2. Chelsea366 Retired Moderator

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    Oh the usual, making me mad with power, occasionally turning me on a little bit.
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    It's going pretty well, uploading a picture of Anders Breivik as my avatar seemed to have riled people up. Until you took it down, that is.
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  4. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    Wait. You can't have Anders Breivik as an avatar, but you can have the likes of Mussolini and Stalin? The Fuck?
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    It's a mad world.
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  6. Unillogical Ex-Admin

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    Can you honestly not see the difference!?
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  7. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    Pirates and emperors. The deed is not justified just because one does it with a fleet rather than a single ship.
  8. Achtung Kommunisten! Well-Known Member

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    I still think Mussolini and Stalin have more going for them than Breivik.
    I mean, could Breivik run Fascist Italy or the Soviet Union?
  9. Bart (Moderator) NKVD Channel Maintainer

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    The ignorance, the ignorance.

    At least what Stalin did was based on ideology. An ideology based on helping each other. Not killing each other.
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    The only difference is that Stalin, Hitler, etc. all killed indirectly. Unlike Anders they simply ordered people to their deaths. Which of course is completely reasonable right? I mean killing a million+ people is fine if it's ordered, but 37 done personally is an atrocity.

    Would you allow a Joseph Kony avatar? I mean he's done much, much less than Stalin or Hitler and I've seen those as avatars.

    The fuck are you talking about? Are you calling Demondaze ignorant? You're a mod Fey. You're not supposed to insult members especially when they don't even insult anyone.
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  11. Spartacus Well-Known Member

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    I pretty sure breivik did that shit because of ideology.
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  12. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Stalin blamed it on an ideology. None of his killings had anything to do with the ideology of the Soviet Union. Stalin was a paranoid mas murderer. Brevik has an ideology too, and he can just as easily blame it on an ideology.
  13. Bart (Moderator) NKVD Channel Maintainer

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    That's all true, but Stalin's ideology is based on helping others. Not just killing them under the banner of "we are better".

    Oh, come on. You make an art out of overreacting.

    But Stalin's ideology is based on a good moral. I don't call extreme nationalism and racism a good moral.
  14. Chelsea366 Retired Moderator

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    The difference is I received complaints from members including a member who had personally lost friends due to Breivik's actions. Extremely offended is an understatement. When an avatar is causing as much offense as that one did then the best course of action is to remove it. I mean honestly we have members from all over the world including where this happened and this incident is still very fresh. It was just a poor decision to put up such an avatar right now. At least with Stalin, Hitler and Mussolini there has been time. Not to mention the website is named josefvstalin.com so you've gotta expect some pictures and references to Stalin here. Removing things when they cause a lot of offense is not new, it was done with Che as a notable example and while this may not be racism/anti-Semitism it is still basically the same thing, an image put up that causes/is meant to cause offense as a sig or avatar.
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    Stalin didn't help that much though, he did but his bad actions out weighed his good actions.
  16. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    He didn't kill because of the Soviet ideology. He killed because of his ideology which was basically kill anyone who disagrees with him. Are you gonna try and tell me also that Mussolini and Hitler's ideologies were based off of this "good moral" bullshit too?
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  17. Kali The World's Best Communist

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    This is a disgusting and unacceptable argument to be making.
  18. Vulcan200x Well-Known Member

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    That is just human nature,

    How can we agree with Stalin....has anybody read animal farm by George Orwell?
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    Ya, Stalin sent people to the gulags in order to create equality. I'll bet.
    No, he did it to maintain power. Animal Farm hit that aspect right on the head. Stalin was ruthless when he had to be for his own sake.

    And is every killing justified by having a good intent in the end?

    Is it overreacting to expect the modship to set a good example when following rules? And how can you just wave off every criticism as "people overreacting"?

    Anders' ideology believes that he could create a better world too. Just because you disagree with nationalism and racism doesn't mean it is not based on a good moral stance.

    And I'm sure Kali would disagree to say that Stalin's actions were somehow based around proper morality.
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    I think the point is that Stalin, Mussolini and Hitler are better people than Breivik. Note that 'better' does not mean 'good'.
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