Opening my eyes as an atheist

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  1. GeneralofCarthage Well-Known Member

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    Wait what?
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    With this statement, you take all atheists and attribute this to them. It's basically like saying all Muslims are terrorists and all Catholics are child rapists, all of which are obviously false statements.
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    I just want to know though, why should we assume that the Christian God exists, when Christianity is only 2,000 years old? What makes the Christian God more real than the Gods of every freaking religion that came before it? If there is a God, what makes you so sure that there aren't multiple Gods, and that the Romans were wrong? Why are you so sure that your God is the God that exists, and not the Gods of any of the millions of other religions?
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    Upbringing. If you're told all your life that there's one true God and you don't critically think for yourself, you'll cling to it forever. Of course, it's perfectly possible to stick with religion if you think critically, don't get me wrong. It's just that it's pretty much impossible to change your beliefs without deeply thinking about it.
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    That's kinda what I was getting to.
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    Well, you said you wanted to know, so I thought I'd give my two cents. Which I'd have to make five cents of, we don't have single cents in the Euro anymore.
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    Well true, but it does seem on the forums that is the way it is.

    Sly, well when over 2.1 billion people follow Islam (same God as us), 1.5-2.2 billion believe in Christianity, and 13.3 million believe in Judaism. You can infer that about 50% of the world's population believes in the same God. I can never be sure, but I can believe.
    Edit: It wasn't my upbringing, my dad was Catholic but my mom is Protestant and my brother is an atheist. I chose to go to a Catholic school. I chose my religion.
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    The internet seems to be a place for atheists to vent out their frustrations, this forum seems to be the same.

    Due to extreme religious intolerance in Europe, colonisation and Europe's general dominance in world history, it's no surprise that the religions in that area are dominant as well. However, when monotheism first appeared, many parts of the world weren't explored or even known to exist. Yet monotheism claims all men were created by a single God, even though He hasn't bothered with revealing Himself to a large part of the world population. Doesn't that strike you as odd? Or that He'd first wait billions of years for life to form (with or without His intervention, but for the sake of the argument, let's assume He did intervene), then millions for humans to evolve, and then thousands more before revealing Himself? Anyway, that's just me rambling.
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    Didn't Stalin already explain why Christianity and other monotheistic religions became popular in the first place? And if you are gonna go by the amount of people who believe in those religions (Islam, Judaism, and Christianity), then I can come right back by saying before Christianity came along, almost everybody believed in some form of polytheistic religion.
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    That was proving nothing. I was just stating how many people believe in God. I believe God proabably did reveal himself but they probably didn't listen. And another reason why he chose that time for sending his son down is because they were all afraid the world was going to end.
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    Never laughed so hard in my life! Real troll man!
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    lolwut? They were all afraid the world was gonna end? And you know what? Those religions had stories of multiple Gods coming down showing them stuff? Why should we believe a religion that has been around for only 2,000 years, when we dismiss other religions that have been around since the dawn of human civilization as myth?
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    When Jesus was sent down, many people in the world were terrified that the world was going to end. I said "I can never be sure, but I can believe," as a response to the multiple gods. Do not capatalize the plural of God, its disrespectful to me.
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    Stating numbers proves nothing either. It was generally believed the world is flat and the Sun revolved around it. Both have been proven false since.

    Actually, the end of the world had been predicted many times before and after Jesus.
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    I know, but they were more fearfull around this time. I meant by proving nothing to my numbers.
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    Jesus came down from space? I thought he was born from Mary.
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    It was a metaphor. Use your head.
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    Also, you are saying we only deny, deny, deny. I cant remember one post in the whole 18 pages where a christian posted something to justify his belief (as required by all christians through 1. Peter 3:15).
    The only ones who posted something with links about any theological questions, are "we" atheists. We m,ade logical statements that were ignored, while you put the conversation onwards to something other. It is not us, who is in denial, we search for facts before coming to a conclussion. Thats how I became an atheist. I read the bible, it sounded fishy. I looked for other evidence. There was nothing. So I came to the conclussion that there is something very wrong here.
    You on the otherhand have come to a conclusion, and now ignore everything that is said that doesnt go according to your belief....
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    Is there any reason why you havent tried to argue against Stalin's point?
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    Here's some evidence for that claim.

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