PUTIN WINS THE RUSSIAN ELECTIONAS!

Discussion in 'The Political/Current Events Coffee House' started by BOOGEYMAN, Mar 4, 2012.

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is this good, bad or you can't decide either.

Good 7 vote(s) 17.1%
Bad 17 vote(s) 41.5%
in the middle 17 vote(s) 41.5%
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  1. Chelsea366 Retired Moderator

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    Of course it doesn't, to be a communist he'd actually have to be a communist. Putin is not a communist in any way, shape or form.
    Chelsea366, Mar 5, 2012
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  2. C_G Well-Known Member

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    World presidency is only one step away now...
    C_G, Mar 5, 2012
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  3. ComradeLer Proud Anti-Patriot

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    Every news source is biased, and every news source will lie. Bias in the news is unavoidable. When it comes to foreign nations, or rather foreign nations that Russia isn't allied to, RT is very reliable. They come out with the full story days before corporate news give you half. That being said, when it comes to their own country, or their allies, they spout a lot of bullshit.

    I'd still trust them over any corporate news station, though.
    ComradeLer, Mar 5, 2012
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  4. 0bserver92 Grand King of Moderation

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    They are just more biased than others and it shows.
    0bserver92, Mar 5, 2012
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  5. Karakoran Well-Known Member

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    They must really love Putin in Russia. I swear, he wins by like 90% every time!
    Karakoran, Mar 6, 2012
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  6. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

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    I'm glad Putin won for many reasons. There's no question that there was fraud (by Putin or without him), but I still don't think it would have changed the results. 60% is probably not far from the truth. In any case Russian government has shown allot of progression this year by responding to protests and expanding of freedom of expression.

    I'm looking forward to Putins next years in office and I expect more peace and prosperity for the Russian people.
    D3adtrap, Mar 6, 2012
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  7. Achtung Kommunisten! Well-Known Member

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    The BBC (well the article below at least) claims that even in the worst case scenario in terms of fraud, 'no-one doubts that Putin won more than 50% of the vote'. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17270746 - they even put it as a caption. So in my opinion, it's time to stop whining about fraud and look forward like D3adtrap said.
    Achtung Kommunisten!, Mar 6, 2012
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    Vladimir executes all who claim to be more kawaii than him.
    lazerBAR, Mar 6, 2012
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  9. Soviet Streltsy Well-Known Member

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    Usually, I'm all for Putin. He's a good leader who gets stuff done and leads by example. However, I will admit that I was kinda hoping Grennady would win, but Putin winning was more or less to be expected. Fair or foul, I would prefer his presidency over that of Mikhail Prokhorov and the other candidates (save for Grennady). I say its a mixture of good and in the middle for Russia. A strong hand is what is needed to guide the RF through current troubles, not petty squabbling and foreign appeasment.
    Soviet Streltsy, Mar 8, 2012
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    The only evil dictator I know who claims to have once harpooned a whale .
    LampRevolt, Mar 8, 2012
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  11. Bart (Moderator) NKVD Channel Maintainer

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    Why do you think he's such a good leader?
    Bart, Mar 8, 2012
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  12. Soviet Streltsy Well-Known Member

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    I don't get it... remind me why Putin is so bad for getting another term? Yes, there was some voter fraud and ballot stuffing but for the most part, it was a clean election. If its because he was running for a third term, then I really don't get it.
    Soviet Streltsy, Mar 8, 2012
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    There was not some but a lot of fraud. there is also the fact that Putin started arresting people who protested against him winning.
    0bserver92, Mar 8, 2012
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  14. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

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    Under Putin Russias GDP doubled, became 11th largest economy all the way from 22nd, economic growth of 7% average each year, 6th largest economy in PPP, industry grew 75%, investments 125%, salary of average Joe increased to 640$ from 80$, consumer credit increased 45 times, middle class grew from 8 million to 55 million (that is 700% increase), people living under poverty line decreased from 30% to 14% (US has 15,5% was it?)

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    Also Finland has VERY good relations with Russia and Putin in particular. I wont bore you with Russo- Finnish politics, but lets just say that they grant us various economical perks.
    D3adtrap, Mar 8, 2012
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  15. Bart (Moderator) NKVD Channel Maintainer

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    That sounds pretty good, but on the other hand: The economy didn't even exist before Yeltsin. Doesn't that mean that it was bound to get an explosive growth? If anything, I'd just say that Yeltsin fucked it up and that Putin did an average job.
    Bart, Mar 9, 2012
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  16. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

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    You tell that to shit-tastic African country. Oh and Russian economy has kept growing while western is in decline.
    D3adtrap, Mar 9, 2012
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  17. Jingles Well-Known Member

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    I see comments like "so what if there was ballot stuffing and fraud? He would have won anyway" and I laugh when people wonder how someone like Adolf Hitler could ever have come to power.

    Seriously, what is the point in democracy if you're just going to turn a blind eye to this stuff anyway?
    Jingles, Mar 9, 2012
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    Hitler did actually win the popular vote, he was quite the speaker. A strong leadership figure in desperate times can easily win an election, even more so when he is precieved as a war hero (or a hero of some other sort). Also, what is the point of democracy if people turn a blind eye to lobbying and corruption.
    Soviet Streltsy, Mar 9, 2012
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  19. Jingles Well-Known Member

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    Having his SA goons hang around outside voting stations and terrorize opposition groups had just as much to do with it as his skills as an orator. Don't kid yourself on that account.

    As far as lobbying and corruption goes, I couldn't agree more.
    Jingles, Mar 9, 2012
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  20. Bart (Moderator) NKVD Channel Maintainer

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    Yeah, I guess that's true.
    Bart, Mar 10, 2012
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