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Discussion in 'Historical Events Coffee House' started by D3adtrap, Jan 17, 2012.

  1. joske Well-Known Member

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    Lemme guess? Its because of human nature?
  2. MayorEmanuel Do not weep, for salvation is coming.

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    Honestly a communist society just sound boring to me. Say what you will about our government at least it's entertaining.
  3. joske Well-Known Member

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    I'd rather be bored and have a two hour something work day with good pay and be able to have meaningfull input in the management of society, then having my country blackmailed into austerity measures and having to face the very real consequences of suddenly having my parents pay about ten-fold of what they usually need to pay in a year to get me educated with a possibility of having fines running in the thousands of euros when I fail a course.

    Plus you could go skydiving or something when you're bored.
  4. battleearl Well-Known Member

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    Because there's no competition between companies. There's no real need to upgrade your products. Their whole purpose is just to provide the people of their basic needs.
    In East Germany you only had those crappy Trabants. They were friggin' expensive and you had to wait years for those things...
  5. joske Well-Known Member

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    I know its kinda a dick move, but those regimes werent communist nor were they socialist. Plus even though as bad as the eastern-european command economies where you cant put everything down to the lack of compitetion, you need to take into account the fact that eastern-europe and russia were very backward areas when the bolsheviks took power and were much more destroyed then the west during world war II, they thus had to from a worse position, then off course they couldnt get any foreign investments, many eastern-european and particularly eastern germany had to face stripping of its industry as war payments to russia,...etc.
  6. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    Taken into a different context, that can actually be a good thing.
  7. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Workers unite you have nothing to lose but your chains.
  8. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

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    You have shit pay but there's no taxes, guaranteed job, house, food, education, medical care etc. If you join a hockey team they will buy gear for you. Sure you don't have Tv in every home, but that's why there are community buildings that have Tvs. At least in late(ish) soviet model.
  9. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    1. No you didn't, I just haven't posted yet. I clearly stated that I would be busy.
    2. Your sig is WAY too big. Shrink it before a mod catches you.
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  11. battleearl Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing...
  12. joske Well-Known Member

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    again that wasnt communism
  13. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

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    In communism you sacrifice allot to get ensured economic life
  14. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    So guys how about that dictatorship of the proletariat.
  15. joske Well-Known Member

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    Vague concept, Lenin asserts that it would simply amount to democratic working class organization to fight off the counter revolution or something, anyways im pretty sure they didnt mean it in the sense of a literal dictatorship.
  16. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

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    Leninsm is a more "practical" take on communism than say Marxist. Leninsts want to transfer a country from capitalism via socialism to communism using a vanguard party. Like baby steps ya know? Technically it does not require dictatorship. Communism and democracy can go well hand in hand, but you are still sacrificing allot of economical, personal (not private) and political liberty.
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  17. joske Well-Known Member

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    Leninists are marxists, and pretty much every marxist group claims legacy to lenin, so I am not sure what you mean by this.

    I am pretty sure most marxists want to transform a capitalist society to a communist one through a socialist society, that is not limited to Lenin, so no I dont know.

    Not sure what to make of this and where you got this from.
  18. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

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    U troll or srs?
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    Better then Land Reform pussies.
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    srs

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