Science doesn't have to disprove anything, the burden of proof is completely on religion. If I tell you that there is an invisible dragon flying above us, you would probably not believe me. You can't disprove the existence of the invisible dragon, but you still wouldn't believe me unless I provide evidence. The claim that religion makes is the existence of at least one deity. My default belief is to be skeptical of that claim until sufficient evidence is presented, which is none so far.
What about how almost every single society ever has developed a relgious system? There's only been a few athiest societies, and those are almost 100% in the modern era.
Whoah, I never said that it wasn't. In fact, I quite explicitly stated this already. If you look at my post in context, you'd see what I was talking about.
Religion is what a man makes of it. Never, ever take some thing literally, because most books have be edited and re-edited over and over. As I think of religion take it as a supermarket, you can take all the the free sample and don't need to buy anything unless you really like it. Or you buy the raw essence of it and make your own.
Because no one knew how to explain our world. You can't see DNA with the naked eye, you need complicated technology to see it. We thought the world was flat because that is how it appears to be from our perspective. It took thousands of years to develop the mathematics needed to figure out that our world was indeed round. Just because everyone believes it's true, doesn't make it so. I have read this entire thread, and I thought it was in context at the time, but I see what you mean. But, you said that because science can't disprove religion, it isn't invalidated. How is something not invalidated because there's absolutely no evidence for it?
Well because you are a troll. You think everything is funny. When someone points out youre not funny and you have nothing legitimate to say to any topic, you then proceed to call them butt hurt. So yes. You are a troll. Also your arguments always are. "FUCK YOI" or "YOURE A RETARD." So to sum it all up i dont respect trolls like you and you should be blocked.
You keep repeating yourself. You're trying to instigate a negative response with these posts. Then you become angry when he responds angrily and without structure. Sure, he might be immature. But your not much better.
Oh so the hundreds of posts I have made that are legitimate to the topics, with evidence, numbers, thought provoking facts. Okay yeah sure that makes me a troll while he goes around saying Fuck You to everything, never saying anything on topic, so yes I am exactly like him.
I didn't say it isn't invalidated because it cannot be proven false/disproven, I said that it's not necessarily invalidated. For me and a lot of other people, the expressly positivist outlook isn't the one which we view the world with.
I remember a teacher of mine once telling us that a scientific theory would be proven by an exception or something. In other words: By disproving it, you apparently prove the theory is true...or something, I never really got it, but it also makes some sense...do all people die? So far, they all did, but maybe there will be one that'll live forever. I think that was a question that was related to that, but I can't remember exactly.
Does someone need proof to say that they believe something exists? I believe in God. You don't. Am I gonna scream at you that you're wrong? NOpe.
Funny how you didn't even read what I wrote. 1. I said your not much better, thus you are better but not by much. I'm sorry that you are not able to understand basic English written in coherent sentences. 2. I said you were repeating yourself. You offered no contradiction, then went on to repeat yourself. Funny, if it wasn't so irritating. 3. I said you were trying to instigate a negative response. You are, your doing it again, and here's your negative response asshole. Let's see if you can stay on topic in a thread as this is my last off topic post here. I was merely pointing out that you were self-righteous and indignant at him for doing things that you yourself do.
I was on topic then he brought it off topic, why not read the context of the thread before you make douche bag comments?
I think the thread has derailed. It probably is impossible to disprove the existence of a deity. I challenge the morality of a deity if he did exist.
I called you butthurt because you responded to my harmless little joke with a long strand of personal insults. Also, I haven't called anyone a retard, and you're the only person I said fuck you to recently in response to your idiotic rant on America, and only because I didn't have enough time to make a real response. Anyway, if I am a troll, then I deserve a fucking medal, because I certainly seem to have bothered you a lot, and said relatively little.
It is a waste of time to try to disprove a religious/spiritual belief because of how subjective belief is. Within contexts of the religious beliefs surrounding a deity, the morality is valid because the tradition of a specific religion's theology builds upon itself in a way that an outsider cannot readily understand. Once the theological tradition of a specific religion has been engaged, it is easy to understand the particular morality that is enforced through and about its deity.
Morality is subjective too. Darwin even admitted that if bees were the dominant intelligence on the planet morality for them would probably be different.
Why can't we just respect each others beliefs and be done with it? We aren't going to be able to convince the other sides about who is right or not, so does it really matter? I think that it doesn't.
The reason it matters is the effects of either side on society. For example, churches property tax exemption(they are for profit business)arguments for pro-life agendas citing the bible(I believe in pro-life agenda actually, but citing the bible as a source is laughable to me), or stances on current moral issues based off of fables in a book. These might the most fundamentalist people you see in society and may be a minority, but their influence is undeniable. Every year apparently, there is a "war on Christmas", according to 'faux' news, yet I seem to be getting fucking Christmas Jingles in September. I guess my stance is that I don't mind Christianity, but I hate the pretentious holier than though moral ground that the majority of Christians judge others by... as most religions have(Islam and others not being exceptions.) In short: It matters because it affects my life.
