The CIA

Iran had no designs on the Middle East. The war was due to control of territories in possession of oil. If you think Iran had designs and the belief it was going to be able to sweep through Syria, Egypt, Saudi, Arabia, Jordan

then

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especially since the war was manufactured by Iraq.

Indeed, Iran had no claims to war and was not a war mongering state. It's funny how American propaganda has always portrayed Iran as a nation that wants complete control of the middle east, even a peaceful nuclear program monitored by Russia is under the automatic assumption that they are building nukes.

they are building nukes....

Because Russia a nation that is monitoring Iran's nuclear program would let Iran build nukes, it's not even like Iran and Russia are all buddy buddy, Russia has in times been in favor of sanctions on Iran. There is also no evidence that Iran is building any nukes, you are just bias against Iran or their president. This nuclear weapon fabrication is solely to the benefit of Israel to stop Iran from advancing as a nation as much as possible.

face it....their building nukes. Not tht there building them to actually use, a lot of countries are building nukes

Give me proof that they are building nukes. There aren't any.

Give me proof that they are building nukes. There aren't any.[/quote]

give me proof tht Osama Bin Laden is dead. There isnt any but we know hes not alive

You just changed the subject, you cant just know that Iran has a nuke without having evidence. There is NO evidence, you know why? Because Iran is not creating nuclear weapons!!!!

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=1334218
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...y-to-produce-nuke-weapons/?page=all#pagebreak

Here's some proof for you. Don't just say my sources are biased (as you usally do when backed up agianst a wall) but provide a real counter example.

Once again the CIA releases information based on what it wants us to see in the world. Yes, Iran may be CAPABLE of producing weapons, but who's to say that they are? It's the same debate as religion. You can't explain it, but you can't explain it away in it's entirety. Only the CIA knows, if even them.

I would like to point out Stuxnet, however. What a wonderful industrial attacking virus. Personally, I see this as I see the first nuclear arms limitation treaties. It's just the U.S. desperately trying to keep it's hold as a world power

I love the CIA, I love them just as much as I love EHM. I would rather the CIA to pay someone to assassinate a leader of a country than to go to war with that country.

under the right justification sure, but not just because it's in the best interests of the United States.

Because the purpose of US foreign policy should obviously be to help the world at our expense...

I just wish at the very least America would stop bull shiting around saying what they do is for the interests of the world or for humanitarian justice. That is what pisses me off the most about America.

God forbid we stop being capitalists for one minute and do something for others without expecting some sort of recompense

God forbid we stop being capitalists for one minute and do something for others without expecting some sort of recompense[/quote:czenznyz]It has nothing to do with capitalism... The social contract the American people have with American government requires that they put our interests first and foremost.

Everyone knows that CSIS is behind everything.

I wouldn't exactly call McCarthyism in the best interests of Americans. Nor would I say that allowing corporations to escape paying their taxes while those who can hardly afford them take the brunt of the taxation suffer. The amount of money a family makes per year to be in poverty was set something like 30-40 years ago at I believe to be somewhere in the 20,000s. Surveys say that it takes over 40,000 to keep a family in a remotely comfortable level. Tell me that's in the best interest of Americans

What on earth does any of this have to do with the CIA?