The Crusades

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  1. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    well the 4th crusaders were actually excommunicated by the pope.


    [spoiler:1673s4hw]until the money came in from the sacking and he withdrew the excommunication :lol:[/spoiler:1673s4hw]
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    Turkic architecture is just terrible, but the Arabian style that was so prolific throughout the Abbasid Caliphate is far more pleasing to the eyes. The Ottomans just made a general mess of the nice Gothic and grotesque structures that dominated Byzantium. It is a complete shame since the Byzantines were doomed anyways that the Abbasids were unable to maintain control of Anatolia, instead the lands fell into the hands of the dastardly Turks.
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    Why do you hate the Byzantines so much?
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    Perhaps because they are Grecian pretenders and heretics?
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    heretics?
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    Yeah, heretitkz.
  7. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    since when were the byzantines considered heretics
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    Not in communion with the Catholic Church. They were branded as such for a short while but later reconciled their differences and united under the banner of Christendom. This doesn't diminish the fact that they are factually heretics.
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    I have no idea.
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    well they kinda helped start the crusades but I get what you are saying
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    Bytheway, anybody else noticed that people start randomly leaving the forums at about 5:30 eastern standard time?
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    lol well this was random. And yeah I noticed that too
  13. Karakoran Well-Known Member

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    The majority of the Crusades weren't half bad. Obviously some of the atrocities (on both sides, no it wasn't just "big evil Catholics"), sacking of places like Constantinople, and other things weren't the greatest. But in the end it was Christians trying to retake the Holy Land which was sorely oppressed by the Muslims.
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    Just remember that the only crusade that was ever succesfull was the 1st. (not considering the ones in europe)
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    has anyone noticed that after everyone leaves the forums at 5:30 eastern times, many others get back on around midnight eastern time?
  16. Karakoran Well-Known Member

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    Ya the first made some progress but people just weren't willing to keep dying in the far corners of the world after they failed in the 2nd.
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    And don't forget the 4th the worst of them all if i'm correct.
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    the 4th was just a bunch of greedy idiots
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    Ya, it was the bottom of the barrel and probably one of the reasons for there not being a 5th crusade.
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    well actually when the Ottomans were gonna take over Constantinople the Pope was actually preparing to launch a 5th crusade to help the byzantines but the byzantines declined the offer

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