well chaos are only located in a very small place in the milky way. closes thing to that would be dark eldar.
All eldar kind of hate Chaos, what with Slaneesh constantly trying to eat their souls and what not. The eldar and dark eldar just go about protecting their souls in different ways. On topic- personally I really enjoyed the Mechanicus book from the Horus Heresy series. Though im told its kind of a love it hate it situation.
Thinking about buying some of the Gaunt's Ghosts novels, having got one for a birthday ages ago. I suspect there won't have been any too much damage to Games Workshop lol, nerds aren't really the looting type. Last time I was in GW, I was probably the coolest person in there
I've read Titanicus, which was all right. And have [I borrowed the other from a library] Sons of Dorn which was also alright. On the actual universe... the point of the whole thing can be surmised into: A myrid of factions living in an eternal state of war and filling a moral grey area where nobody is technically 'good' and nobody is technically 'bad'. Example is when the Tau became a major faction, there were some complaints that they seemed to be the 'good' guys. Later additions and novels added a darker hue to their existence to maintain the all-around grey balance. The Imperium actually does make technological progress. There are several problems however: 1. Most of the time, the technology procured is destroyed to keep it out of enemy hands [because they suck at defending their worlds]. 2. They initally relied almost soley on the progress that the Immortal Emporer of Mankind made. The Mechanicus is largely just maintaining and copying and pasting old designs made by the Emporer ages ago. 3. The technology, when it is implemented, usually does not see mass production, limiting its affective pool to just a handful of individuals that were lucky enough to get their hands on it. Another problem with the Imperium is that on a large scale, the soldiers that serve are at polar ends technologically. You have the Adeptus Astartes, who are decked out in the best of the best. And then you have the Imperial Guard, who get little more then a lasrifle and some crummy combat armor that usually just slows them down. The filler organiztions between the extremes are too small to make up for the difference in the technology gap. Nobody gets along. Logically, the Imperium, Tau, and Eldar should unite to fight all the others. However: The Imperium is xenophobic. The Tau are kind of haters of the Imperium, though they [as an alliance of several species] have been known to take on human members who have defected. Funny, their word for the humans who do this sounds like gweilo. :lol: The Eldar are snottbags who are all high and mighty and above the 'lesser and savage species'. Meaning everyone else. Though that isn't to say that they have never been on good terms... small splinters of the Imperium have cooperated with one or the other in isolated incidents. Nobody else has the innate ability to foster any kind of long-term alliaence. The Orks are warmongerors, their lives revolve around it. The Tyranids are just hungry. The Chaos are Chaos. The Necrons are soul-stealers. Not the best of allies. Then there are the minor leaguers who nobody really talks about.
I have no Idea where i can find these to buy in person. i guess i can buy them online. Can someone recommend me a good Ork book.
You can get them in pretty much any bookstore, and probably every library where you live (what with you being in LA and whatnot).
the necrons kind of suck,destroying te old ones just to feed the C'tans endless hunger,or was it for revenge because they were beaten by the old ones in a war before they all became life hating robots?
The majority of necrons themselves are necrontyre who have lost their souls, so they don't really have an opinion either way. Only the Necron Lords actually retain part of their souls. This gives them the ability to command the legions of necrons and is the only reason why they get to keep it. The necrontyre are a basically extinct species. Though it is hinted that there is the possibility that some of their origninal colony ships may still have survived the ages with living specimens alive, as far as I know, nothing has ever been made of it or been planned to make something of it. Like I said before, all of the factions fill a morally grey void, where nobody is really 'good' or 'bad'.
Weren't the Nercons the ones who basically wiped life from the Universe then went back to their tombs to sleep? I wouldn't know because i only have the codexes for imperial guard and Space Marines and the 2009 version of the Tyranid codex. Honestly though i think out of all the books i've read of 40k Dan Adnetts Gaunts Ghosts The Saint cycle and Sons of Dorn are probably my favourites maybe Rynns world too. But on the topic of Rynns world does anyone else feel it pretty random how the Orks nearly wiped out an entire Space marine chapter? I mean thats probably the most embrassing way for to a chapter to go out beaten by greenskins.
Donno about Rynns and his books but: Which chapter was that? And a chapter being wiped out [depending on the circumstances] is not that surprising. There are only 1000 members per chapter [of full marines, there are support groups too] and they typically pile onto a handful of ships at one time. A well-aimed, well-timed shot could kill hundreds of marines. And greenskins are greenskins. The basic idea is numerical superiority. Even space marines are not invincible. The Necrons, under the command of the C'tan managed to drive the Ancient Ones and the Eldar into near extinction. Most of the others of the Warhammer 40K universe as we know it did not exist at this time. I don't know if the Orks' predicessors were among the faltering ones to the Necrons [as they existed at that time].
YOu honestly don't know about Rynns World? Its basically the whole backstory event to the Crimson Fist chapters loss of gene-seeds and such. But yeah your right a single well placed shot can wipe out a chapter i mean thats what did it to the Crimson fists but what makes it embrassing is how it happens on their home world. But then again i guess thats almost the same as the tyranids first invasion when they reached Macragge and the Ultramarines. I guess the Ork arguments true as well when it comes down to it. Its like the Imperial guard really, except they don't have the cool title Anvil of the Emperor! And wow the Necrons sound badass! But I guess that explains why their a bit moody you wipe out nearly all life have a small nap wake up and suddenly boom! The universe is full of life again.
The book series' that I read usually only have one author and when there are more, but not a significant difference in the writing or writing style, I usually don't take notice. In Warhammer 40K's case, I know alot about the universe, but I only actually own one book. The others were borrowed and returned. I MAY know him, but the book I have is Sons of Dorn. I usually focus on the books, not the authors. On the Necrons: Stalin did a LP of one of DOW's expansion packs that included the Necrons. An unusual spokesperson for the Necrons [unusual because he used to be human and somehow part of his intellect survived the transformation into a Necron and because Necrons don't really ever talk] said "... for millenia we slumbered, while the Living grew around us like weeds..." or something to that effect. So yeah... they viewed it as kind of an unfortunate fact that when they woke up they were practically surrounded. The Necron's story in a nutshell: They started as the Necrontyre on a planet with an unstable star. When they got to space to escape, they found the Ancient Ones who had a long lifespan and refused to help on some kind of 'way of life' thing. The Necrontyre fought a war with the Ancient Ones and lost, though they had greater technology, the Ancient Ones could use the Warp [pre-Chaos monopoly]. The Necrontrye found the C'tan on their star, feeding on it, causing the instability. The C'tan were pure energy lifeforms and soon found souls to be more 'tasty'. Rather than kill the Necrontrye, they offered to give them technology with which to get revenge on the Acient Ones. Thus, with the living metal that the C'tan made and souls of Necrontyre put into, the Necrons were born. The two sides fought and the Ancient ones created a number of races to defend themselves with, including the Eldar and the predicessors to the Orks. Eventually, the C'tan turned on each other as they won the war and the food source dried up. The arrival of another soul-sucking alien species later, spurred the prey underground and into hiding. The Necrons [the Necrontyre all but extinct at this point] went ot their tomb worlds and the C'tan [what was left of them] followed. Thus closed a chapter of galactic history and major conflict would not really come into being again until the rise of humanity. At least, that is from what I know.
Thats actually really cool of a back story for a 40k race It also kinda goes on to show the whole inspiration complex 40K has had for so many other sci-fi's. Also i really regret not watching that full LP of Stalins I got caught up in playing SoulStorm a bit too much, but i prefer the tabletop game really. But yeah i know what you mean on the book front. I only just managed to read the first three horus heresy books, which i how i found Dan Abnett, but i've now kinda started reading more of just the occasinal book and if i go for a series its normally gonna be one author. I like Sons of Dorn, thats a series isn't it? Cause if so i've only read the first one but i found it really good but a little creepy with the way the Chaos cultists actually enjoyed the pain. But I'm still pretty knew to the whole Chaos stuff.
Creepy, but understandable. Theoretically, I could [provided the hardware and the know-how] simply rerout your pain signals to your pleasure center. The effect, in theory, would be that you would recieve the pain as pleasure. The idea is actually very interesting and I think that I read somewhere of a real situation in which a civilization [or a splinter of one] found a way to almost do just that. Not at the precise brain-level manipulation, but by another method. And it has pros and cons of course. Feeling pain when you are shot is usually a good thing, so you know when the battle is being lost.
Or when to call for a medic. But yeah i see your point its understandable when it comes to the god they come from. But please i got enough mental and medical issues at the moment i don't need someone goofing around with my other parts. For battle though if your a cultist, whos basic role in life is to charge head first at an enemy position screaming your lungs out to your unholy god and your traitor legion, then having your pain being changed into something thats gonna make you want to get in a the fight a bit quicker is gonna be a pro. Doesn't do much for repeat battle though if you kinda get the ultmate kick out of dying. A weapon i like though in the book, from the chaos side, would have to be the sonic Chaos Space Marines. The way they just have this ablity to send out this simple wave of sonic sound that mushes your insides and breaks your weapons is just brillant.
One thing that I've noticed in science fiction novels is that whenever you call for a medic, the majority of the time they don't come or if they do, they are already out of materials. Funny thing about that... the majority of Slaanesh's followers are volenteer from what I understand. Sorry, lung problems. I'll take the silent approach. While it is theoretically a possible weapon, the range is a bit short. Its kind of conserning how close to weaponizing everything in science fictions we are.
ONly if its a main character I've noticed in most books. They don't make a fuss of being out of materials unless its a main character whos going to die from his wounds. Yeah i know. I mean the other day i caught an episode of future weapons and they were showing cybernetic weapons like a camera in a ball you could throw and a little RC car with a camera on it to. Then to top it off he had a smalleye patch type thing over his eye with a hud connected to the camera s and all that. Then theres guns which can bend round corners with cameras so you can where your shooting i mean weapons tech is really advancing.
