What I hate about the way Americans think

Discussion in 'The Political/Current Events Coffee House' started by General Mosh, May 5, 2012.

  1. GeneralofCarthage Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Sep 16, 2011
    Message Count:
    2,029
    Likes Received:
    188
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Ankara
    Yes I am, because I didn't post something like that on Facebook.
  2. JJ12354 Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 19, 2011
    Message Count:
    705
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    78
    Location:
    London, United Kingdom
    Definition of hero:
    "A person, typically a man, who is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities."

    I agree with Sly on this one. I, however, have to say that Kali has been incredibly insulting, and that really wasn't necessary.
  3. GeneralofCarthage Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Sep 16, 2011
    Message Count:
    2,029
    Likes Received:
    188
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Ankara
    I agreed with Kali except for the age thing.
  4. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

    Member Since:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Message Count:
    5,310
    Likes Received:
    668
    Trophy Points:
    193
    Location:
    Scattered to the 4 corners of Earth
    No, I was referring to the fact I distinctly remember you throwing a massive temper tantrum and pretending to leave the forums because you disagreed with the rules....and you have the audacity to call me an attention whore? And how does posting that on FB in any way show me to be an "attention whore"? An attention whore is someone that posts "I'm fat hurr durr my life sucks hurr durr I have no frans".
    That's kind of what my entire message with this thread was about...that real heroes should be respected and appreciated more than just any average fireman...
  5. Spartacus Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Jun 16, 2011
    Message Count:
    973
    Likes Received:
    391
    Trophy Points:
    123
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    The armed forces can not declare war, only our government can. Regardless skill and technology are more important today then simple numbers, so mor people joining will not cause us to declare war on everyone.
    thelistener likes this.
  6. Onyxja Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Mar 19, 2011
    Message Count:
    638
    Likes Received:
    224
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Stockholm,Sweden
    (I feel that it is stupid to answer this because I have answered the exact same question. But I have never been one for intelligent actions.)

    What you don't seem to see is that a country is just a piece of land governed.
    So a man could claim a square meter of land and say I will defend my land. Then two guys comes from the land of 2 square meters and shoots him in the head a couple of times. There where some people watching that goes ''What a hero!''
    And thus the greatest hero evar was born.
  7. GeneralofCarthage Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Sep 16, 2011
    Message Count:
    2,029
    Likes Received:
    188
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Ankara
    Massive? I put it in the OFF-TOPIC SECTION! Temper tantrum? Again, I put it in the Off-Topic section.
  8. Spartacus Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Jun 16, 2011
    Message Count:
    973
    Likes Received:
    391
    Trophy Points:
    123
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    He is not talking abouut fighting for landmasses, he is talking about the people in the country, the citizens.
    thelistener and slydessertfox like this.
  9. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

    Member Since:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Message Count:
    5,310
    Likes Received:
    668
    Trophy Points:
    193
    Location:
    Scattered to the 4 corners of Earth
    That's kind of where people throw temper tantrums....and does it really matter where you put it? Of course you put it in Off-Topic. It was an "off-topic" thread.
  10. Kali The World's Best Communist

    Member Since:
    Mar 13, 2012
    Message Count:
    1,168
    Likes Received:
    1,065
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's just plainly false. Doctors, lawyers, judges, politicians, and managers don't risk their lives, or even risk their personal safety. The reason we afford policemen, firemen, and soldiers respect is because their line of work entails a lot more than the average 9-5 job does. For whatever reason, they are endangering themselves to perform a role that society needs to keep functioning.

    It doesn't make them heroes, necessarily, but it does mean we should treat them with more respect. And part of that is upholding the societal convention of labeling them heroes even if they don't do anything particularly heroic. Same goes for pretty much all public sector jobs, really, although to a lesser extent. The only people who actually speak out against this are the same kind of people who avoid tipping: tactless assholes who want an excuse to be in the spotlight.
  11. Yarpen Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 16, 2011
    Message Count:
    1,541
    Likes Received:
    744
    Trophy Points:
    163
    Location:
    Bs. As.,Argentina
    Well, that's just what it looks like from here :p I'm not really an expert in American society.
  12. GeneralofCarthage Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Sep 16, 2011
    Message Count:
    2,029
    Likes Received:
    188
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Ankara
    How is a massive temper tantrum when I put it in the Off-Topic section? If I wanted it to be massive, I would have put it on the People's Assembly.
  13. Onyxja Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Mar 19, 2011
    Message Count:
    638
    Likes Received:
    224
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Stockholm,Sweden
    Why is the people of just that landmass so important?
    Guy from 3 square meters says to his wife
    -I will die for you and I will be hero.
    -Well okay.... says the uninterested wife.
    So the guy goes to one of the 2 square meter inhabitants and says:
    -I will die for my people.
    -I will die for your people, says the man from 2 square meters.
    And then a person from 4 square meters shoots the guy from 2.
    -He was a hero says guy from 3 square meters. He died for my wife.
  14. Yarpen Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 16, 2011
    Message Count:
    1,541
    Likes Received:
    744
    Trophy Points:
    163
    Location:
    Bs. As.,Argentina
    Doctors, in the other hand, save lives.
  15. Kali The World's Best Communist

    Member Since:
    Mar 13, 2012
    Message Count:
    1,168
    Likes Received:
    1,065
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And the ones who do it for free are generally afforded the respect of society for it. Doctors, teachers, lawyers, judges, and politicians are all given a certain level of respect simply because of the work they do. Of course in the case of lawyers and politicians, there's also a lot of bad press that comes with the job, it's just that people wouldn't say it to your face.
    slydessertfox likes this.
  16. Spartacus Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Jun 16, 2011
    Message Count:
    973
    Likes Received:
    391
    Trophy Points:
    123
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Well it's great that you can oversimplify things, but it does not make you right.

    Once again the landmass that they live on is irrelivant. It is because you and the other citizens of your nations have
    a stake in seeing it grow and prosper. That is why nations(remeber not geography) are important to people.
    thelistener and slydessertfox like this.
  17. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

    Member Since:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Message Count:
    5,310
    Likes Received:
    668
    Trophy Points:
    193
    Location:
    Scattered to the 4 corners of Earth
    I agree.
    I disagree.
    What exactly is the correlation there? Have you got statistics to back this bullshit up?
    Maybe because the thread blew up, was locked, and you were removed from the NKVD channel because of it?
  18. Onyxja Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Mar 19, 2011
    Message Count:
    638
    Likes Received:
    224
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Stockholm,Sweden
    Dying for something you have invested in makes you a hero also!? Soon everyone is heroes.
    General Mosh likes this.
  19. Spartacus Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Jun 16, 2011
    Message Count:
    973
    Likes Received:
    391
    Trophy Points:
    123
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    First of all no, you simplified what I said yet again but even then, not everyone lays their life on the line so not everyone would be a hero.
    Countries are important because you and other citizens have a stake in seeing it prosper. If it is doing good then you and your family and the other citizens will prosper also, which allows them to have a happy existance. Defending a nation that allows it's citizens the ability to pursue a happy existence is a good comendable thing.
  20. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

    Member Since:
    Feb 15, 2011
    Message Count:
    11,853
    Likes Received:
    1,425
    Trophy Points:
    373
    Location:
    Mars
    1. a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities.
    2.a person who, in the opinion of others, has heroic qualities or has performed a heroic act and is regarded as a model or ideal
    Spartacus and thelistener like this.

Share This Page

Facebook: