What is the Greatest Crime ever Perpetrated on Mankind?

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  1. pharoahjared Member

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    How is pol pot not Communist he supported Maoist ideas
    when have I supported fascist ideas, I don't see you accusing Stormfront USSR of being nazi
  2. Achtung Kommunisten! Well-Known Member

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    Only if you keep going on about it. Look to the teachings of Stalin, and deny everything!
  3. pharoahjared Member

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    Which one?
  4. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    I agree alot of the Commies on the forum are very unlikable.

    The Khmer Rouge identified themselves as Communist much like an uneducated 12 year old on the forums does, thus I will not claim to be Communist, though they where assholes. Communist killed people but Capitalism has killed alot as well. I would think that People Like Karl Marx would be very disappointed by the way Communism had become.
  5. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    @ pharoahjared
    Clearly you have failed to read any of the many, MANY threads that either touched on Communism or addressed it directly on this forums.
    1. A 'Communist government' is an oxymoron.
    2. Point me out a Communism that has ever existed.
    3. How many people has Capitalism killed? What of the thousands of religions? The countries that have risen, those who have fell and those who still stand? What of the other ideologies?

    Then parhaps it is a matter of timing. The more I learned of Capitalism, the more I started to hate it.
    Where did I come to diserve this?
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  6. Bart (Moderator) NKVD Channel Maintainer

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    I agree to most of what you say, but I feel that there is one more thing to say: The ideology isn't bad, the people are. As long as an ideology or religion doesn't say: "Thou shallt kill every person that does not completely agree with thou and this ideology!", it's not not a wrong ideology. Therefor, communism isn't a crime, and certainly not the greatest crime ever perpetrated on mankind. Evil people do not exist, neither do evil ideologies. Can we move on now?
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  7. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    Human Behavior
    Feel free to debate on exactly what i mean.:p
  8. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    Yeah, but Viking already covered that with 'ideologies don't kill people, people kill people' thing so I didn't feel the need to restate it.
  9. Bart (Moderator) NKVD Channel Maintainer

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    Meh, I guess you're right. Also, a nice quote by Ghandi: "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians." Basically saying that it were the Christians who did bad stuff, and crusades, and stuff like that, and that it wasn't the fault of the religion.
  10. pharoahjared Member

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    Communism is not a oxymoron because the means of production and private property are held by the state.
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    The ones in red are self declared communist governments.
    1st of all Capitalism is not a religion. A lot less than Communism because Capitalism is economic an theory not a form of government.
  11. Bart (Moderator) NKVD Channel Maintainer

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    You still haven't touched the argument that the ideology isn't based on killing people. The people are the ones who feel the need for killing.
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    @ pharoahjared
    Again, clearly you have failed to read any of the relevent debates on Communism on this forum.
    1. Uh... no it isn't. Communism holds for the total dissolution of the government. The 'state' that you refer to is purely the people [also refered to as the community].
    2. Self-declared, yes, but they, in reality, fail to meet either some or all of the criteria necessary to be a Communism. China has one of the most Capitalistic economies in the world for crying out loud!
    3. I didn't say that Capitalism was a religion. I put up the list as references to beliefs/systems that have caused many deaths and much suffering in their time.
    4. Communism IS a form of economy AND a form of government [though it calls for the end of governments] AND [arguably] a form of religion AND etc. Communism is MANY things, not just a governmental system.
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    Capitalism and communism are not proper nouns. Don't capitalize them unless they come at the beginning of a sentence or are part of a title.
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    Ideologues.
    Fuck those guys.
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  15. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Most of the self declared Communist governments are no longer Communist like for example China, who I hate with a passion FUCK CHINA.

    North Korea has allowed Private enterprise to take route in the country as well, though its still at a merchant/carvan level. the same could be said for Vietnam and I believe Cuba.

    Which leaves Laos as the last true Communist state. If you can even call it that.
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    very true
  17. Achtung Kommunisten! Well-Known Member

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    Our one of course. I forgot to put his exclamation mark in. Look to the teachings of Stalin!, and deny everything!
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    Statism.
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    Leninism is considered as communist and Leninist state can be anywhere from corporatist democracy to green police state.
  20. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    After watching Amazing Grace today (depressing movie) I am shifting back to Slavery.

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