What nation you admire the most?

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  1. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    I have to say I agree.
  2. Karakoran Well-Known Member

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    I'm glad saying the Indians all deserved to die is perfectly fine but saying Carthage sucked, incomprehensable.

    At least I don't balls up the quotes. Apparently a mentally retarded person is more able to do "coding" than you.
    Yes, that's the point about Hannible. Carthage got a God-send who was willing to fight to the death to destroy Rome, and to spite wiping out tens of thousands of guys for them, they STILL managed to lose.
    For instance, the Moors blew right over it. Not to mention Napoleon destroying it. Rome blew over it too.
    No, Rome made a few minor errors that your exagerating. They assassinated the leadership to make the campaign easier, not because they couldn't win otherwise
    Ya, that's the Hannible part. He slaughters 150k+ Romans and Carthage is beaten into the dust STILL.
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    For instance, the Moors blew right over it. Not to mention Napoleon destroying it. Rome blew over it too.
    No, Rome made a few minor errors that your exagerating. They assassinated the leadership to make the campaign easier, not because they couldn't win otherwise
    Ya, that's the Hannible part. He slaughters 150k+ Romans and Carthage is beaten into the dust STILL.[/quote:1z4t5jv9]

    No Napoleon lost the Peninusular Campaign. Rome lost many battles in Iberia due to Viriathus which is who they assassinated. No Carthage didn't suck. Carthage was a world superpower until after the 2nd Punic War and even then they weren't weak. You have just shown how mentally challenged you really are. Learn to spell HANNIBAL Right.
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    First, they couldn't be a "world" superpower, cause half the world wasn't discovered yet.
    Second, there weren't really superpowers back then because as a superpower is defined as a "very powerful and influential nation". Neither Carthage nor Rome at the time were anywhere close to superpowers or indeed influential outside of their immediate regions.
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    Well of the known world back then it was a world superpower due to it's economy.
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    Only economy doesn't make it a "superpower". Definitely a major nation, but as I said, there were no superpowers back then anyways.
  7. Karakoran Well-Known Member

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    No, Napoleon kicked ass in Iberia. Twice.
    After his first conquest he left a governer incharge of the area. However, his governer could never beat the resistance. So Napoleon came in again and oblitherated the guerrila fighters. He then declared the province won and left. Eventually, because of the British, the French lost their hold etc. etc.

    In other words, Napoleon destroyed it. His French Governer failed.

    Exactly what I said. Rome made a few mistakes and like everywhere they tried to kill their enemies. Their enemy just happened to be somewhat capable in Iberia.

    It was a regional power at best. It's hard to have a massive influence in the World in anything BC. Only a handful empires could actually do it.

    Carthage was pathetic after the 2nd Punic War. They were next to nothing and only noticeable because almost everyone else was just as pathetic.

    Because obviously spelling determins your mental state.
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    You don't know your history is why you are mentally challenged. Carthage decisively defeated Rome in many battles. If Hannibal had taken advantage of Cannae by taking Rome. Rome would have been destroyed. Carthage was a world superpower like I said. Napoleon failled in Iberia. Pretty much every nation who tried to conquer it except for the Moors due to the fact there were many Rebellions going on in the Peninsula
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    Watch it, you'll piss him off. History doesn't decide what mental state you are anyways.
    I find it funny how you state this in this thread just as you state rhat he could take advantage of his battle's in another thread. Way to be hypocritical.
    No it wasn't, as I said, even Rome at the time was not a world superpower. Superpowers didn't really emerge until the 1600's.
    Should have started a new paragraph. Also, Napoleon didn't fail, his craptastic governors did.
    I can't understand you, start using better grammar before calling people mentally challenged.
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    I can't understand you, start using better grammar before calling people mentally challenged.[/quote]

    Pretty much every nation who tried to conquer it failed except for the Moors. The Moors still failed in the end. Iberia is one of the hardest places to conquer due to Guerilla Warfare. It's called a typo.
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    Pretty much every nation who tried to conquer it failed except for the Moors. The Moors still failed in the end. Iberia is one of the hardest places to conquer due to Guerilla Warfare. It's called a typo.[/quote]

    Actually the moors did conquer it, and even managed to get into France around, the troy-ish area. then Charlemagne (German) kicked some ass and pushed them back into Iberia. what happened after... not to sure about how that story continues though.
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    Actually the moors did conquer it, and even managed to get into France around, the troy-ish area. then Charlemagne (German) kicked some ass and pushed them back into Iberia. what happened after... not to sure about how that story continues though.[/quote]

    In the end they failed though
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    In the end they failed though[/quote]

    No... they didn't. they conqured ibreia, doesn't matter what happens after. definition of conquer: To defeat or subdue by force, especially by force of arms. they managed this. so they conquered Iberia, so why do you keep saying they didn't.
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    No... they didn't. they conqured ibreia, doesn't matter what happens after. definition of conquer: To defeat or subdue by force, especially by force of arms. they managed this. so they conquered Iberia, so why do you keep saying they didn't.[/quote]

    They didn't conquer all of it though
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    ok, even if they didn't, if theyr moving into France, they obviously could have. and it was a VERY small part, not like it was half of the whole peninsular. howa bout this. if they could have clearly, taken all of Iberia, then they conquered it, the reason napoleon didn't take Portugal is because they were allied, so that kinda stopped him from taking all of it, then the only thing standing in his way would be Gibraltar, which was British. so yes, Iberia has been conquered, multiple times, in fact.
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    Carthage didn't conquer Iberia completely either, what's your point?
    And while Hannibal might've been able to attack and even take Rome, he didn't, effectively losing the war, as he was too busy roaming around Italy and didn't notice the Romans taking the fight to Carthage and winning the war.
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    Yes I know they didn't conquer all of it. My point is it is one of the hardest places to conquer in the world. See that is what I have been trying to say. Carthage could have defeated Rome if Hannibal had attacked Rome after Cannae.
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    Germany
    Turkey
    Brazil
    Poland
    and Cuba
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    Why Cuba?
    Why Turkey?
    Why Poland?
  20. GeneralofCarthage Well-Known Member

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    What did Cuba, Turkey, Poland Do???????? Let me guess you admire Poland because of WWII survival.

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