Who is your Favourite Roman Emperor?

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  1. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

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    When you rape, enslave and murder 16 million people it tends to happen...
  2. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    I never said you were defending it I was just saying that is what you said. I agree with you to an extent.
  3. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

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    Yeah no I was just giving more detailed information ;)
  4. Spartacus Well-Known Member

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    oh so none of these ring a bell?
    I just find it a little odd that you can say the russians raping and slaughtering a bunch of german women is justifiable, but your all up in arms about julius caesars and his campaign.
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    I really try not to call you names, but you must be handicapped in a way or something?

    a) I did not justify anything and I mean you could just read from my quote that you used. "I did not say I approve it and I don't."

    b) Did you read any of comments before? Maybe read what I'm saying before to reply or something? You could see like buh-zillion (two) troll faces and me saying that I was trolling about Caesar.

    So take your accusations somewhere else, like in the bottom of the sea or something.
  6. Spartacus Well-Known Member

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    Saying they had it coming is essentially saying you agree with it. But anyway, if you were seriously trolling then sorry I missed it completly.
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    No it is saying that I understand why it happened and was not surprised that it did happen. By no means am I endorsing such behavior.

    Tho unrelated to that statement I do not blame men that did it, given the circumstances. Like one British pow wrote: "After seeing how Germans treat their Russian prisoners, I forgive anything Russians do to this forsaken land. Absolutely anything."
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    I never said I condemened them, when I though you where being serious about caesar I just though it was odd that you could condem caesar but understand what those men did.
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    Antoninus Pius is my favorite he was a great man , peaceful leader and he ruled in the golden century of the roman empire he was able to deal with many problems without leaving italy.


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    Sorry just seems so weird to some one like pompey magnus and then below explain that Julius was a mass murderer
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    By this logic anyone who ever fought in any major war in a position of command is a mass murderer. Whether it was avoidable or not is irrelevant it happened and no matter what moral standard you think is so special it means jack shit when it get's right down to it. Welcome to 2000 years ago.

    All current societies were made possible my an incredible amount of violence and still are too this day but no, they are all murderer's. Clearly my shit doesn't stink because I simply sit atop the gigantic pile of wealth they have enabled me to acquire, and then accuse them of having no morals.
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    What?
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    I must agree with Stalin Caligula showed true justice and indifference when he had sex with his subjects wifes and then said to everyone there strength and weaknesses.
    And he helped science when he gave money to the alchemists so they could make him a woman.

    He was all in all a great man.
  14. Achtung Kommunisten! Well-Known Member

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    Surely there was no Emperor greater than Augustus, on the grounds that the Empire was his legacy to more of an extent than any other leader.
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    I dont know, I think Mark Antony might have been better had he won the civil war.
  16. Achtung Kommunisten! Well-Known Member

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    Ah, but he didn't. The extent to which Roman society revered Augustus is what impresses me, although perhaps all those pro-imperial/anti-republican scholars would've said the same had Mark Antony won. I'm no expert.
  17. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Well I think if Mark Antony won, it would lead to greater unity between the Greek and Roman people's, which would greatly effect the relations between the late Eastern and Roman Empires, which could result in the Western Empire surviving longer.
  18. crocve Well-Known Member

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    I would say no Roman Emperor is a favourite of mine. Because the Empire was a time of decadence and tiranny for Rome, while the Republic was a time of expansion, both territorially and economically. Not only that, even if the system wasn´t perfect, the Republic was a more free political system then the Empire.

    The Empire had a very good legacy of the Republic, but it completely destroyed it.
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    The Republic was more effective before the Second Punic war. After the war it became a corrupt and horrid mess that never really advanced.
  20. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    The major military conquests that happened after the Punic War came when the Republic was being destroyed into a triumvirate, and after it became an empire. You know nothing of what you are talking about.
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