Who will be the next Space Power?

Nonsense, 20-38% of the world isn't starving, first of all. It's around 10%.

Not to mention it's not in China, India, or other massive population density areas. They're starving in Africa and such where the entire country is poverty stricken. In other words, you should say 10% of the world is poverty stricken, not that 10% of the world is starving.

I laugh at the idea that a Moon colony could make their own food, water, and oxygen in just 10 years without pouring trillions of dollars into ~5 people.

I hope you know even in places like china and India people are suffering from chronic starvation.

well then you a very uninformed, through a very simple method of taking basic moon dust and treating it to a type of heat and pressure (something easily about to be done from a small heavy water reactor) you can produce O2 and water, and even heavy water that could then be used to power that reactor. and with hydroponics already a very much proven method of making food you can have a fully formed colony in less then 10 years. and also as for how will this be supported? well the moon has something the earth has very little of. helium-3 a very useful thing for fission/fusion reactors, and something that would be in large supply once easy coal and gas deposits are used up.

I was starving a few minutes ago, but then I got a pop-tart. Maybe if those poor Indian people in their shitty slums were smart, they would get themselves pop-tarts. Serves them right for not using such luxuries.


On topic: A moon colony is something I have crusaded for in other threads, and I will not go to in depth with it now, as I have work to do, but basically what inquisitor said.

Indeed we should units all nations under one banner put all out efforts to space technology find alien life , conquer all alien life and become the most dominant race in the universe MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

You shouldn't do that, unless you find 50-story-tall Stalin. because what happens if we find confetti men and blue elephants. AND OCTOPUS HITLER! these are the questions we should answer before we go conquering the universe.

I think a moon colony is a waste of valuable resources. First, we've already been there. 6 times! anything more we could learn can almost certainly be done with robots. A certainly we don't need a base there. Why not go to Mars or and asteroid?

Moon: Close and reletively important
Mars: Been there, done that, water and presumably iron.
Astroid: What? In the Belt? Too far away.

While I admire your optimism, robots are still not as physically capible of doing tasks we need done on space voyages. There is a reason why the satillites in space and the ISS is maintained by hand. Humans still are needed to fufil the more delicate tasks. Though robots can go further.

Theres been plenty of talking amongst NASA about colonizing mars or the moon. but the moon can outweigh the cons of Mars.

pros for the moon:It's Significantly closer, MUCH cheaper to get there instead of mars.
cons for the moon:it basically protects the earth from asteroids, no water or minerals.

pros for mars:has water and iron to start life on, has a larger (idk by how much) atmosphere than the moon.
cons for mars:The water isn't consistent, "Jesus rollerblading Christ" expensive, extremely long time to get there.

I think that the pros were already stated. As for your cons...
You do know that the likelyhood of the moon intercepting astroids is almost neglegable right? O and they already proved that there is an abundance of water on the moon.

The mars one is solid. Though the atmosphere is severly overrated. As a planet futher from the sun and with less gravity in comparison to the Earth, even if we managed to colonize, the changes in the people would almost creat a what can be called a subspecies of humans. The gravity thing is kind of obvious. The futher distance from the sun dosen't do much, but the low amount of atmosphere makes heating a ***.
Some people have proposed trasporting CO2 there to strengthen it as rediculous as that sounds. First off, its inefficient, second, Mars simply can't hold onto the atmosphere.
BTW: Mars is slightly smaller than the Earth. With a less dense iron core.

Mars

Canada

Does Canada even have a space program? Or the capacity to make and maintain one?

We do but it;s mostly just to develop technology the Canada arm.

Sooo... basically the dismantled NASA does more than Canada?

oh don't pick on the Canadian's, it's not their fault their french.

oh don't pick on the Canadian's, it's not their fault their french.[/quote]

Who to pick on then? Everybody is really taken. [sarcasm]

Ummm, obviously the French. DUH!

They'r never to taken for me.

Russia, because America is only cutting their space exploration programs drastically while Russia is increasing them, such as the planned nuclear powered engine prototype to start production at the end of next year.

Because you know, thats how its going to work.