Who would you vote for?

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Who would you vote for in 2012 for president?

Mitt Romney 1 vote(s) 1.4%
Rick Santorum 2 vote(s) 2.7%
Newt Gingrich 2 vote(s) 2.7%
Ron Paul 17 vote(s) 23.3%
Barack Obama 39 vote(s) 53.4%
Other 12 vote(s) 16.4%
  1. Shisno Doesn't know who did this

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    All I have heard without any research is he is your run-of-the-mill conservative, he was Governor of Minnesota, and apparently did a good job as governor, but other than that, not much else.
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    What i like about Obama- he acts like a normal guy but is responsible enough to be a President, he is been pretty good since all the president's for the past 15 years have sucked.
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    This was from a topic not used anymore that I created, which was called "Why President Obama Sucks"

    Here are SOME reasons why Obama sucks and is no better (but is also no worst, because for me, they were equally bad) that the other presidents before him:

    He reauthorized the Patriot Act.

    Signed the NDAA to allow indefiinite detention of US citizens

    Expanded the War on Terror

    Expanded the War on Drugs

    Ordered the killling of US citizen withouth a due proscess (Anwar al-Aulaqi)

    Proceeded with warrantless spying on US citizens

    Tripled the number of US troops in Afghanistan

    Defended the TSA´s naked body scanners and patdowns

    Attempted to negotiate a deal to keep US troops in Iraq

    Government prosecuted whisteblowers for leaking state secrets

    Dismissed lawsuits brought by civil liberties organizations

    Defended the torture of Wikileaks source, Bradley Manning

    Launched an undeclared drone war on several nations

    Broke promise to close Guantanamo Bay

    Blocked Publication of Photos of U.S. Soldiers Abusing Prisoners

    His economic policies didn´t brought prosperity at all, and even endured the economic crysis
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    Economics doesn't work that way.

    No economic policy can take you from a collapsing economy to a social paradise, by any definition, in only three years.
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    Wrong, mine can!!
  6. crocve Well-Known Member

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    But if there was less interventionism (which Obama did), the economy would be recovering in a much better way.
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    Give me a single piece of proof or even evidence that that has ever worked better than government intervention.
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    Obama's policies are just now starting to work. If there was less interventionism you would probably have even less jobs, and your already horrible regulation would be worse.
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    Hong Kong.

    Wrong, the horrible regulation would be gone.
  10. 0bserver92 Grand King of Moderation

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    Well that's because most of the business is done on the mainland. I also see you have not met the opposition in Hong Kong.
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    Without Obama's intervention, the auto industry would be fucked, but today, it is doing better than ever.
  12. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    Lolno. It wasn't even united with the mainland until like a decade ago,and by then it was already prosperous.
    Now, why don't you introduce me to them?
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    Well the opposition is the main anti-Chinese parties (they control half of the legislative body) which all except one I think is social democratic. Regulation is for the purpose of protecting consumers which is what they want currently Hong Kong has a bit of a problem with it. Hong Kong was doing business with the mainland before that it only became part of it in 1997. Then when I was in the U.S. food and drinks had something definitely off about them. Especially bottled water and even tap water but that was mainly in New York.
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    I want you to prove to me that most business that contributed to Hong Kong's development was "done on the mainland" because that is quite simply a ludicrous claim. Then I want you to give me an instance where positive non-interventionism has had any kind of negative effect at all that would render interventionism more favorable. And you were only like one year old in '97.
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    He was a terrorist, thus a traitor, and thus was killed for his crimes. If you betray your home country, you are worthy of death. It is not like he killed a loyal US citizen.
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    Well I found this

    Your also from New York right, why is your tap water so horrible?
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    But shouldn't he have been tried and punished within the legal system? And without giving the President the authority to kill whatever US citizen he wants?
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    So they moved the sweatshops out of Hong Kong, that is a benefit of positive non-interventionism!


    I'm not from NYC if that's what you mean, but I like the tap where I live.
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    You expect us to bring in a known terrorist located within Yemen, so you want us to invade Yemen to get him? I don't think taking him alive would be even possible, he could just kill himself, or move off to another country. Finding him was difficult enough, but to bring him alive would be tough. And Obama had a reason to kill him, but if he killed you or me, then there would be no reason. Alwaki was a terrorist who published anti-America propaganda.
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    No the state of New York (around Buffalo and Syracuse genrally) I never went to NYC.

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