Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russia?

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  1. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    Not all that hard if you give the barbarians a little more control than usual...
    General Mosh, Oct 28, 2011
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  2. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    Because that worked out so well in Germany.
    slydessertfox, Oct 28, 2011
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  3. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    A little more control not A HELL OF A LOT!!!
    General Mosh, Oct 28, 2011
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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    A little more control not A HELL OF A LOT!!![/quote:3bz14zqb]
    Then you still got constant rebellions. And I dont know about you but I do not want to be a soldier coming from Italy and fighting in Russia.
    slydessertfox, Oct 28, 2011
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  5. Spartacus Well-Known Member

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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    Then you still got constant rebellions. And I dont know about you but I do not want to be a soldier coming from Italy and fighting in Russia.[/quote:2sn9cgq6]
    Well if they did take germany i imagine they would spend some years "Romanizing" the province like they did in gual, which eventually lead to a loyal population in gaul as well as builidng infrastructure and highways. I do not see why they could not do this to germany and eventually western russia. The romans could just offer the troops land in the new provinces to help keep them motivated, plus they would definatly have raised many more legions to hold all of this new territory.
    Spartacus, Oct 28, 2011
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  6. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    But it would be extremely hard to govern. They TRIED to romanize Germany, and thats probably the sole reason German territories rebelled.
    slydessertfox, Oct 29, 2011
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  7. battleearl Well-Known Member

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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    Didn't the Romans give at some point Roman citizenship to all free born men across the Empire?
    battleearl, Oct 29, 2011
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  8. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    I dont know. You might find the answer here all though I am not too sure.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_citizenship
    slydessertfox, Oct 29, 2011
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  9. thelistener Well-Known Member

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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    in 212 AD emperor Caracalla did that.
    thelistener, Oct 29, 2011
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  10. yuri2045 A Marines Biologist

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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    One observation in here though, Germania wasn't really worth conquering at the time, it was almost a wasteland full of barbarians and no, Germania wasn't full of people in it, it had such a scarce population, but such a hostile enviroment, that the Romans didn't really bother conquering it, they could start colonizing Russia through Crimea though.
    yuri2045, Oct 29, 2011
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  11. battleearl Well-Known Member

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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    Northern Germania was basically flat land with woods crowded with warriors waiting for Roman invaders...
    battleearl, Oct 29, 2011
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  12. thelistener Well-Known Member

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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    Please correct me if I am wrong but I remember reading that Romans (imperial era) did do a lot of revenge operations in deep in to Germany and got huge amounts of gold and silver from looting.
    thelistener, Oct 29, 2011
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  13. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    I believe so. They were actually very successful in Germania after the defeat of Varrus which brings me to wonder why they did not try to Romanize the Germanic tribes again, seeing as they had learned from their mistakes with Varrus about not jumping straight into ambushes.
    slydessertfox, Oct 29, 2011
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  14. thelistener Well-Known Member

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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    One more question relating to the subject, why didn't the Romans conquer all of Romania, isn't that area mineral rich?
    thelistener, Oct 29, 2011
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  15. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    Honestly, I have no idea lol. I think it was because the new emperor just wanted to let Rome settle down.
    slydessertfox, Oct 29, 2011
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  16. thelistener Well-Known Member

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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    fuck my bad they did control romania in 117 AD under Trajan
    thelistener, Oct 29, 2011
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  17. battleearl Well-Known Member

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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    Maybe the Dacian civilization didn't occupy all of modern day Romania and the Romans just wanted to wipe out the Dacians and take their lands.
    battleearl, Oct 29, 2011
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  18. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    But you were right they did not occupy all of it I believe.
    slydessertfox, Oct 29, 2011
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  19. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    They probably at that point didn't know the area was mineral rich.
    General Mosh, Oct 29, 2011
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    Why did the Romans never discover what is today W. Russi

    Well there was the amber road that ran through parts of germany, but yea other then that there was not much in germany that the romans would have wanted. I was simply saying that, if they were to get to russia they would of had to go through germany first, for instance if varus succeeded in his attemps at romanization instaed of losing three legions, then it would have been possible for the romans to reach russia.
    Spartacus, Oct 29, 2011
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