Why President Obama sucks

Discussion in 'The Political/Current Events Coffee House' started by crocve, Feb 14, 2012.

  1. DukeofAwesome Well-Known Member

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    What's the point of continuing producing a product that people aren't buying? If there were too many cars then obviously production needed to be cut.
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    Do you honestly think they would capture him? Be realistic for a second. They weren't gonna capture Osama Bin laden and they were not gonna capture this guy if they went in with the SEALS. I'd rather him be dealt with from afar without risking the lives of our soldiers than to put the lives of our soldiers at risk just so we can say "Told ya he wasnt gonna let us capture him".
    Not this argument again.

    edit: @ duke. So you are saying we should have let Chrysler and GM fail and let all those people go unemployed? That sounds like a great idea! /sarcasm.
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    He was a great president for the situation he was put in but I think Ron Paul is better.
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    Exactly. He could have not done much better. The economy was gonna go downhill regardless if he was in power or Jesus was president.
  5. DukeofAwesome Well-Known Member

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    The way I see it is this, they had the choice to try to capture and put him on trial, or they could break the law and the constitution and outright murder him. Obama chose to violate the constitution.

    That's how the economy works. How on Earth can you advocate Ron Paul when you have no idea how his economics work? Like, at all? Read up on him a bit before you change your avatar and signature and become a groupie k? Also, the book suggestion offer still stands.
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    They are buying it, but not so much in a time of crisis. In theory they could just let "the invisible hand" do it's magic, but that would mean jobs lost in America and transferred to Asia, causing a big negative on the balance of payments for the US.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_of_payments)
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    I am not an actual supporter of Ron Paul. I just thought I would pick a Republican to watch for the lulz.
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    If I were a Fascist this statement would offend me.

    In short: Subsidies =/= Government administration over major industries by method of state appointed leadership of corporate bodies.
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  9. DukeofAwesome Well-Known Member

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    If its cheaper to produce in Asia then why would the companies be here in the first place?
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    Because the invisible hand doesn't control everything and that you can't just move an entire company's manufacturing at one time. The costs would be immense and no bank would be willing to give that big of a loan even to GM. Furthermore the training required to new workers/leaders in Asia would mean a halt in production for several months if not years.
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    Man Bonaparte I think you live in a world where all reason is the opposite of everyone else's. The GOP has such bad candidates because I can't remember the last time the GOP had good candidates.

    Also what is with all this perry love? He's religious , homophobic and I honestly haven't heard a damn thing out of him that would allow the states to gain any ground. Perry ruled over a racist , child beating, domestic dispute, obesity capital of the PLANET. I don't care if the place did well economically it's also the last place on this planet I would ever want any human being to have to endure living in.
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    Damn bro. It stings less when I say it.
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  13. RickPerryLover strawberries oh sweet Jesus strawberries

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    Perry love, I'll address that. I like that he is religious. I think that he is prorated as someone who thinks other religions are inferior, but having listened to him and reading his book he is nothing like that. Second he isn't homophobic. Governor Perry is for gay rights in the right places. He is such a big advocate of states rights that he feels if you believe in certain things go to that state. In his book "Fed Up" he says the following, "California has the right to same sex marriage because the state voted on it. If you don't like carrying guns and hard core Christian values don't come to Texas, if you don't like Gay Marriage don't come to California". So he is a supporter of Gay rights so long as it was a state decision. He is the BIGGEST supporter of states rights. In fact his campaign was centered about promoting the 10th amendment. It was one of his biggest points. He isn't racist in the least. As for child beating that is controversial. HE supports spanking I think, but it as far as spanking goes it wasn't an important issue to him or me. Perry never said a hard word against fat people and its not his place to tell them what they can or can't eat. And I can go into Texas economic prosperity under his rule, but something tells me this is about social issues.

    I have met Perry. I use to dislike him, but I disliked the Perry everyone talked about and not the real one. He is a good honest man and that is more that can be said about most of the others.

    Edit: And I said the GOP candidates are bad. I believe that is a common opinion.
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    One books are not reasonable reference because it is obviously going to be slanted as hell towards him. While supporting democratic decisions is good he's still homophobic, he just said it's okay for California do to things their way LOL. My reference is that marvelous advertisement where he somehow "accidentally implied" homophobia. One does not simply imply homophobia that OBVIOUSLY in a paid advertisement by mistake, and if he does he's a moron therefore not worthy of governing anything.

    I didn't say he supported obesity, child beating domestic disputes or perhaps the ABYSMAL educational board he has in his state, I just ment to say that they exist and he has done nothing to stop it. Maybe if you Texans could figure out how to read a map or perhaps your ABC's you could get an understanding of the world at large so you wouldn't be so ridiculously and stereotypically racist.
  15. RickPerryLover strawberries oh sweet Jesus strawberries

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    Okay he has backed up his one book numerous times on the Campaign trail. The "Strong" ad doesn't imply homophobia. All it mentions is "Don't Ask Don't Tell". That is one issue and it in no way can be linked to homophobia. The reason the ad was made was to pander to Iowa's evangelicals. It worked in Iowa, but his idiot staff blew it up and spread it around.

    You can say a lot of things about him, but NO moron is able to lead the 13th largest economy in the world for as long as he has and as successfully as he has.

    As for allowing all that other stuff to happen, its because he has spend all this time saving Texas from the recession and he succeeded.
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    Oh you mean the big oil money in texas had nothing to do with the good numbers your seeing? Good thing Rick Perry had nothing to do with it . What has perry done as Governor that actually effected the economy? He simply let big business capitalize on natural resources which was CERTAINLY all ready happening before he came in.


    Too bad he was too busy sucking the dick of gigantic corporations to spend some of that extra money on y'know, giving people in Texas a proper education. Perhaps improving the public transit which is horrid.


    OH RIGHT IT WAS A TOTAL MISUNDERSTANDING LMFAO. I WAS JUST SO SILLY NOT NOTICING THAT BEFORE IT WAS ON NATIONAL TELEVISON.
  17. RickPerryLover strawberries oh sweet Jesus strawberries

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    He didn't grow jobs by making room for big business. The reason everything ran so smooth and still does is all the work he has done for small businesses. That was also a major focus of his campaign. He also signed a lot of balance budget amendments that are starting to pay off. The reason for Texas prosperity is Perry's balance budget amendments and his work for growing small businesses. Once again it was his idiot staff that blew the ad up. It was a misunderstanding, because people thought he wanted to crucify homosexuals when he was just trying to get evangelical support.
  18. LampRevolt Well-Known Member

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    Trying to get evangelical support and crucifying homosexuals is the same thing. Pick a side, the crazy religious are going to be absolute bigots and will only support absolute bigotry. He figures he can play both sides by making silly excuses and still running the ad. The words came out of HIS mouth I hardly think he was somehow unaware!

    Oh and really? Your biggest industries are Agriculture, manufacturing and oil/natural gas/fuel refining. Agriculture is mostly corporate now and fast becoming more so as family farms die out.
  19. RickPerryLover strawberries oh sweet Jesus strawberries

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    They are sooooo far from being the same thing!!! He isn't crazy religious, he is just religious. To Rick Perry his faith stands for Peace, Love, and Hope and regardless of your own faith you must know Washington could use that! He never made the excuses I am saying. He is the only candidate who owns up to his mistakes. After his "Oops" moment instead of making excuses he got up and laughed it off. He isn't one to make excuses.
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    Any religion at all is enough for me to think one need to reevaluate their priorities. If it isn't just a political move then there's even more reason to not support him. Also where did those excuses you just sited come from if not him or his affiliates ?

    Did you know the word faith can have it's letters re arranged to spell the word microwave? Don't think about it just trust me.

    I like how you dodged the economics there.

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