World War II

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  1. yuri2045 A Marines Biologist

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    The Chinese were in no way capable of advancing into Japanese territory, their army was very outdated, but they did hold the Japanese for much more time than any of the countries that were in war, even more than the Soviets held against the germans.
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    Because they held back. The commies did more than the Nationalists and this pretty much secured their victory in the Chinese civil war.
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    If the Japanese didn't waste their resources on China they could've advanced with even more men against Australia and in India, but the US I don't know, maybe make their war against the US a bit longer.
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    I'm not ignoring the fact Japan pretty much was wasting resources in China, they even acknowledged that. I was saying the Nationalists didn't do much in offensive terms and were ineffective against Japanese assaults. They were also unpopular and corrupt, which led to their downfall in the following civil war.
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    I think Japan should have waited before conducting Pearl Harbour. They should have secured the islands around Australia (and possibly invade them) and then attack the US
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    Then the US would've been all over Japan.
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    The Nationalist did all the work, the Communist just back-stab people. Do you really believe that PRC propaganda?

    Yes, the Nationalist were corrupt, the Communists won because of it, and backstabbing the Nationalist of course(Plus some help from the Soviets). But the Nationalist were doing most of the work in the war against Japan.
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    It's not about who did more, but what they did.
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    The Communist never did much of anything, the Nationalist were the main force of defense and held against the Japan for 8 years with rifles and men. In fact my history professor said that 200 hundred Chinese generals died during the war, only two of them were Communist. I trust the man and his knowledge. Even the PRC are starting to say we fought most of the battles. And you deny the Nationalist achievements, because we went on the defensive?

    What do you know about Chinese history? Where do you get your sources?
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    Your Nationalism doesn't impress me. I'm not denying achievements, just stating that the Nationalists were content to remain on the defensive despite repeated requests from the Allies for them to launch offensives.
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    My Nationalism doesn't equate into this, so save it.

    Look, most of our best equipped troops were still fighting in Burma, and Stilwell had to stop all American supplies coming in because he wanted control of the entire Chinese army, and the Communist were already building a army to take down the Nationalists. Chang Kai Shek would not risk his troops fighting the Japanese, when all kinds of shit are going on inside the Chinese camp. That caused the Allies to lose faith in the Chinese, and ceased to make the Chinese-Burma theater a priority.

    Again were do you get you sources?

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